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Winter's Heart

Winter's Heart

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Rating: 3 stars
Summary: Plenty of semi-important, as well as useless stuff.
Review: I want to start off by saying that I can understand that Mr Jordan has spent many years writing this series, and after so many books it may be boring or even difficult for him to continue at this point. I want to make sure we all understand that no matter how this reads, I'm sure most of us appreciate the amount of work involved in producing works like these. However, now it comes down to opinion time. When I borrowed a copy of Winter's Heart from a friend, I went in somewhat closed minded, since I have been unhappy with the series since Fires of Heaven, and outright disappointed in Path of Daggers. I was surprised to find that this book was better than the last, but then again after Path of Daggers the series really had no where to go but up. This book has some useful information about the characters, and Matt's return was handled fairly well, especially the part when he discovers the Daughter of the nine moons. His actions there would be typical of the type of gambler he is.

However, there was absolutely no need for me to know that Birgitte and Elayne had the same cycle now. I thought it was bad when every chapter about Nynaeve had her changing her underwear. While that can be a pleasant thought, there's only so many times you can dip into that well. As always, there is at least one fairly well rendered nude scene, and amazingly it doesn't involve any of the three major characters. Also, I'm only slightly surprised that Elayne didn't [attack] Rand at their meeting, or Alanna for that matter. It seems that she is smitten with Rand as well. Now, we come to the least defined main character in any book I've ever read: Perrin. Now, we do have some information about Perrin, but compared to the others he is sketchy at best. Perrin is in a couple of chapters about nothing, as usual. Personally, if they left him out of this book like they left Matt out of one, nothing would have been lost with regards to him. I like Perrin, but he is just too undefined for me. If you read the rest of the series, you need to read this one since it ties up some loose ends, but it also leaves just as many. I'm hoping to reach the Last Battle soon, because if not the Last Battle might be to read the rest of the series or not.

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Better than Book 8, but still too much chaff
Review: The 8th book failed to deal with the cliffhanger of the 7th book, and pretty much failed to be much more than hundreds of pages with about 30 pages of action. The 9th book improves on that, being less tortuous as there were fewer pages spent on people arguing pointlessly. And the ending was spectacular.

All in all, though, Jordan seems to not understand that less is more, and that if he chopped a couple hundred pages out of each book, they'd be much improved. In fact, I spent a decent amount of time thinking, "Hmm... Yeah, except for that one minor point, he could have chopped that chapter, and it wouldn't have made a bit of a difference."

Now, I tend to get a bit wordy myself, and it gets a bit difficult to cut things down. However, I kept on finding things that I would have had an easy time cutting. Reading the book, had those passages been ripped out, I wouldn't have minded. At all.

All in all, it's still a fun series to read, now that I know and care about the characters. I still would not suggest a non-reader of the series to pick it up. There are so many better books and series out there.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Help me!!!!!!!! I'm lost!!!!!!!
Review: I was so happy to hear a new book was out, so I rushed here to read the reviews......... It took only a few to realize my ordeal was not over. I'll tell you now; I didn't even read this book! It's going right on the bookshelf with the last 3 I didn't read. I will wait for the last book to come out, so I can read them as a set. Maby it will be easier to remember all the characters.

[Think of this.] The first book came out in 1990. At 6-8 years, some are estimating to finish the series, it could mean 18 years from when I read the first book to the finish. I hope RJ is healthy, and keeps himself safe. Anyone familiar with Barry Sadler (Casca Series) knows how tough loosing the author of a popular series can be. If anything were to happen to RJ we would have people jumping off hi-rises

Mr. Jordan we love your writing. Please put the books out faster. At two years between books, I just don't think I'll live long enough to see the end.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: At last something happens!
Review: First things first. It needs to be said that this book is FAR better than the preceding two. That said, it still lacks whatever magic made the fist ones in the series so special. Perhaps it is because Mr. Jordan is writing two other series at the same time. I was confused as hell for about half the book trying to remember who was who and what was going on. After a while I stopped trying to remember all the insignificant people and concentrate strictly on the main characters. The book got better after that. The ending was something I had been waiting for since book 4. It's just too bad it was all bundled into one chapter. All that time wasted in Far Madding for basically nothing, and Padan Fain thrown in for the hell of it. I am interested in the ISAM/LUC storyline (what there is of it). It is obvious that this is Lan's uncle, the one that went into the waste and disappeared (at least I think that's what happened, it's been soooooooo long). To bad they only had a couple of pages to it. This book did not feel like the filler the last two did, but it still doesn't measure up to the others. My biggest wish is that Mr. Jordan would cease his other two projects (Fallon's Blood, and I forget the other one), and concentrate on completing this story in the same fashion he started it. Make each book stand on it's own. The first 5 books of the series, while tied to each other, were more or less stories on their own, leaving you feeling complete afterward, instead of cheated. The Wheel of Time is becoming like a soap opera, where just as something is about to happen........to be continued.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Kaching!!!
Review: I wish I was Robert Jordan. Who else could throw a couple plot line bones to readers every 2 years for millions of dollars. Anyone who doesn't admit that Jordan's producing water downed novels to extend his WOT cash cow is either dillusional or a fool. I can predict every description of each character when they get angry - which is too often. Pull hair, scowl, glare, etc... Ughhh. I'm glad I didn't pay to read this book. The rest of you who pay for this drivel, say Baaaaaa like good little sheep.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: read the last 50 pages, the rest is filler
Review: Another miserable 650 pages to slog through in Mr. Jordan's Wheel of Time series. The first several in the series were good, but this is ridiculous. Not even the L. Ron Hubbard's (hope the Church of Scientology doesn't mind me using his name in vain) Battlefield Earth series was this painful, or this long.

Seriously, this has to be longest series ever written to not have a conclusion, and yet promise one. His minor characters, and small plot twists spanning multiple volumes add nothing to the story. which are issued out every two years.

It takes this long to write a book that has no major plot events, adds nothing noteworthy, and manages to skip through the admittedly interesting conclusion to get to the end in a length readers might stand?

Ask yourself this, when the ending that you've read ~7000 pages (and running) to get to happens, will you look back and say "oh, yeah, that added to the story?"

Don't even bother with the first 32 chapters. Nothing happens.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: It's a book not a movie-script
Review: What surprises me most when reading the reviews of this and the books after 'Lord of Chaos' is that there are so many people bickering about the fact that 'nothing happens' in the books. I wonder what these people are looking for when they pick up a book. It is definately something different than I expect when I am reading. To me a good book takes me in, makes me believe in the world it describes, and that is exactly what happens to me every time I read a new installment of WOT. Again, in this book hardly anything happens; Mat finds his bride and Rand cleanses the male side of the source. And still, I put pretty much everything else aside to read this book so void of 'things that happen'. What matters to me is that the characters are interesting, and even though even I think Jordan could cut back a weebit on the stream of forsaken, when I read I find myself wanting to know more about everybody. What made me decide for 4 rather than 5 stars is that the male-female thing doesn't quite convince me and the fact that I'll probably will have to wait another year or two before I know more about the characters I have come to like. For people that want something to 'happen' I know a nice alternative. It's called 'movies', especially in expensive movies a lot of things happen. Usually a lot more things happen than the storyline really needs, but hey... that's what you want isn't it ?

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Huzzah! - something actually happens
Review: My heart sank when it arrived - the paralyzingly dull Perrin on the cover did not bode well. Jordan's least successful (but obviously most impressive to him) invention, Daes Daemar, doesn't get balefired out of plotline like it deserves. Egwene is practically non-existent. But...

... this book ACTUALLY ADVANCES THE PLOT. Rand does something, rather than react. Mat's back. Nynaeve's no longer a witless ninny. The Chosen actually show up and deliver more than massages to the Amyrlin(s).

Perrin & Faile are on too many pages, but all in all, a very welcome improvement over PoD. Yeah, I'm glad I shelled out for it.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Very Interesting
Review: This is what the last book in the Wheel of Time series should have been. Despite what some people say about it being longwinded, its really not. It is Jordans typical style of giving the book a feeling of realness. There are great plot twists and character development. The only bad thing I could really say about the book is, if someone new to the series (ie, never read the other books) tried to read this book, they would not have a good time. A knowledge of the previous books is essential.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: SOME POINTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE . . .
Review: Of all the fantasy series out there, none has had the impact that the Wheel of Time series has. Let me be honest, I am just one of the many fans who absolutely love RJ's books. So how can I give the ninth book only three stars? Simple, when you compare it to the first four books of the series, it simply doesn't have those awesome storylines with the great sense of urgency and adventure. Book nine is not a bad fantasy book, but it could have been a lot better. Look, we all remember the storylines for the first three or four books, practically by heart, but the following books are a little bit harder to follow. They aren't being chased anymore, they Travel instead of walk, etc. One thing that I am really tired of is how people say how RJ is dragging this on and how he leaves us hanging as to what is going on with the characters. I am a writer, and let me tell you that what RJ is doing is really rather brilliant. In book four Perrin is present, but in book five he isn't. He's back in book 6. A building falls on Mat in book 7 and in book 8 you hear nothing about him. You have to wait till book 9 to see what happens. Egwene is right outside Tar Valon at the end of book 8. We will have to wait until book 10 for that battle. See a pattern? OBVIOUSLY, IF ROBERT JORDAN TOLD YOU THE FATES OF ALL THE CHARACTERS IN ONE BOOK, WHAT'S THE POINT OF WRITING ANOTHER ONE? He is weaving the characters in and out, developing new characters when the old ones aren't present. Finally, I'm tired of people who are saying that the series hasn't ended yet. Let me say this: Lots of fantasy books (e.g. the sword of shannara) pit the protagonists against the bad guy and IN THE SAME BOOK, THEY KILL THE ULTIMATE EVIL. THEN, THE AUTHOR MAKES UP SOME LAME EXCUSE IN BOOK TWO, SAYING, 'OH, WELL NOW THERE'S ANOTHER NEW EVIL THAT THEY HAVE TO FACE. Jordan doesn't do that. Instead, he has one truly great evil and when Tarmon Gaidon comes and goes, that will be it. RJ won't have something like book 13: The Revenge of the Dark One or something like that. In real life, the good guys don't kill the ultimate evil in one book. WWII didn't end in one month, and for that reason the Wheel of Time doesn't end in one book.


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