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Winter's Heart

Winter's Heart

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Rating: 1 stars
Summary: What is wrong with TOR?
Review: Please, TOR, please. True fantasy fans everywhere are begging you to either get a good copy-editor or just a good editor. I don't appreciate reading 700 pages of drivel to get to two pages of plot development.

Also, why haven't these characters matured after all they have been through?

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: Not a fairytale
Review: I feel this book as well as this series catch a bad rap based simply on the scope of it all.Personally my only complaint is the time between publishing although even this is somewhat excusable when considering the magnitude of what RJ has undertaken.I would now like to take this oppurtunity to remind people that this is not a fairytale,you are not expected to like all the characters even the "good guys" have faults much like real life.Bad things do happen to good and bad alike,this story deserves better than to simply be wrapped up and tied off with a pretty little bow like some thoughtless hollywood movie.My advice is to revel in the length of this series as you will not find a better written more in depth set of novels in this genre.Finally I thoroughly enjoyed Winter's Heart and anxiously await the next installment after some admittedly slow going.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Jordan is connecting everything
Review: Robert Jordan is finally getting around to all of the connections that he alluded to. It's getting good.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A Little Robert Jordan Support
Review: So we come to book nine. And like the series or hate it you're still reading it. I am too. There are parts I like and naturally with EVERY book I ever read there are some things I (especially as a writer)don't and would do differently. I've read many reviews for this series, and agree a little with almost everyone's thoughts both good and bad.
I see a lot of the same arguements coming up time and time again.
Here's a little of what I have to say:

Rand- His philosophy against killing evil women is silly. The way he treats his friends like [junk](Perrin, Mat, Egwene, and Nynaeve) while Min, Elayne, and Aviendha are worshiped as goddesses confuses me to no end. I guess its all part of going insane. Now that Rand is cleansed of the taint I would like to see him become warmer to those who stuck by him.

Mat- In all honestly, and I know I might get a lot of heat for this. I think of the three main males, I think Mat is the least interesting. Grow Up and accept who and what you are, Mat. This is taking far to long for him, which in a way is a good thing considering how quickly the rest of the Two Rivers clan accepted theirs, but I'm tired of going gambling & bar hopping with him. Now that he has met the Daughter of the Nine Moons he might finally become important and fun to read about.

Perrin- Of the three, Perrin has the most interesting plotlines. His ordeal with wolves is still a mystery that I hope doesn't slip Jordan's mind to resolve. He was the first to "Settle Down" and the first to acually do something with his leadership skills. (aka the Two Rivers/Whitecloaks/ Trollocs) Way to go Perrin I hope you save Faile in the next installment.

Egwene- At first I thought she seemed pointless. Then when she went into the waste she became less of a brat and more of a woman. Now as Amyrlin she's as tough as nails and ready to take on the Reds in the Tower. I missed her in Winter's Heart.

Nynaeve- Why so many people find her annoying I don't see it. Okay the braid pulling has to go yes but give the woman some credit. Look at what she has accomplished in this series. She protects her Two Rivers people first and foremost, she captures a forsaken on her own, She heals stilled women, helps make the weather right again, and she helped cleansed the male half of the True Source. All the while holding in her passions for Lan intact. Nynaeve deserves a rest. Jordan has a habit of giving all the main characters a book break. I would not be surpised if she doesn't even appear in book ten.

Elayne- Every book (not just one's written by Jordan) comes with a regular character that the reader can't stand, and Elayne is that character. I think she is the reason why so many readers don't like Nynaeve. The pairing of these two on adventures must stop. Put Morgase back on the thrown, have her marry Gareth Bryne, let them conceive another daughter-heir, kill the annoying Elayne, take Aviendha with her. Then Min can have Rand all to herself this solves many of the plots.

Aviendha- I liked her until she learned she could channel.
Min- As far as the woman characters go. She is one of two that don't have a negative thought about the opposite gender.
Faile- I think the only regular "normal" female character in the series who can't channel or see other people's future. She is also not willing to share her man unlike Elayne and Aviendha. So for that I like Faile the most.

The Forsaken- Many readers feel the Forsaken are keeping silient far too long. Well, except for Moghedien (and the resurrected ones) all the Forsaken who have confronted our heroes found themselves dead. I'm sure Semirhage has something cooking in that twisted mind of hers not to mention the remaining survivors.

The Sub-plots- My last opinion is based on the large number of complaints on this one. I have read many fantasy stories. All great reads but one of the biggest questions I asked the book is "Where is the rest of the World" Many writers seemed to neglect how a evil wizard (for example) bent on world domination had an impact on not just a small group of people, but the whole world. Some books I have read make that world totally disappear. The world I see in the end is run by one to ten heroes and one evil bad dude. The Prophecies of the Dragon IS going to affect more than just our five main characters. I like the fact that Robert Jordan adds a point of view here or there. Whatever anyone says these minor sub-plots do not take away the heart of these books, but rather make them more interesting and more intriguing. Again like them or hate them you are still reading them and most likely will continue to do so.

I hate the waiting too, (every 2 years??) ugh, but I'll pick up the next installment right when I see it.

NOTE: What is stated above is stictly my opinion. I'm not saying my feelings are right or wrong. Whether you agree with them or not it is up to you to read them (starting with The Eye of the World) and find out.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: robert jordan has created a whole world
Review: i was just flipping through some of the other reader's reviews and realized something....all those who complain just seem to want a quick Tom Clancy-like, shoot-em up story. i am rereading winter's heart right now and realized something. robert jordan is creating a whole world of characters. he is creating a whole world of events. remember, he is creating the Last Battle. do you think that only three or four main characters would be involved in something that grand? remember that the Dragon Reborn is to break the world again. what world is he breaking if we cannot see it? how do we know he is breaking it? what is being changed? robert jordan is showing all the events related to the Dragon Reborn's change. and that is asking a lot. be thankful that Jordan knows how to weave the storylines so well and intricate that it is a pleasure to read.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Please, Dear God, Stop Him Before He Murders Another Brain!
Review: The writing is exemplary, the plotting intricate, all of what is said about this bok is true - INCLUDING THE COMPLAINTS! Someone needs to get through to this HACK, because his fans are clearly not making an impact on him. I have read all nine books. Of this, the tenth book, I have just finished chapter 22, which ends talking about someone named either Luc or Isam dropping out of the world of dreams long enough to kill an elderly couple we don't know for reasons that aren't explained, then slipping back into the world of dreams to talk to someone who is disguised about God knows what...AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE FLAKE LUC OR ISAM IS! Maybe I read about him once in one of the other books, but with arguably BILLIONS of characters big and small WHO CAN KEEP TRACK!

Chapter 23 starts with someone named Shalon gating to a clearing with someone named Harine and her swordmaster Moad...and again I HAVE NO CLUE WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE! Jordan, you've left most of us in the dust! I am not an unintelligent man and yet even I can't keep up! C'mon, MAN! When is enough ENOUGH ALREADY!

I am afraid after struggling this far I simply can't read on. After clinging gamely on, hoping for a light at the end of the tunnel I am going to have to call it quits after this volume. The fact is life is too short to gimp along with this meaningless ramble - albeit well-written meaningless ramble - any longer. I quit this series now.

Too bad, because it started as the best fantasy I had ever read, and I've read almost all of them...

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Tsk tsk name callers
Review: Just because some of us are disenchanted with these books is no reason to insult folks.
WOT was a fabulous story, WAS, IMHO it as become bogged down by it's negative sterotype behavior of the characters.
I was re-reading all the books before I got to book 9 so it isn't from a lack of memory that I say this as some reviewers would assume.
I've read a lot of multiple book series and the one thing that always turns me off from a book is when the main charaters become so unsympathetic that I want the bad guys to win. That is where this series is headed at this point. I only hope RJ pulls it out of that rut by book 10 or I may never read his stuff again!
That is my humble opinion. If you still like it, I am happy for you, but don't tell me I have no right to disagree with you.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Good, but not the best...
Review: When I read some of the reviews for Winter's Heart, I started to wonder if Jordan really had lost his majic touch. I realized as I read it; he hasn't. It's in hiding, but touches of genius reappear. Rand's actions at the end of the book are awesome, and I look forward to seeing how Cadsuane can help him overcome his stony nature - I miss the Rand of the first few books: a caring, yet dangerous, character. The one criticism I have for this book is that too little occurred. While some major events did transpire, we're still sitting around waiting for Egwene to reach the White Tower and for anything to happen with the Perrin/Faile/Berelain plot (does anyone else remember that Berelain is tied to Perrin - after all, Min did see it). I also want Rand to getdown to the business of hunting down and killing the Forsaken. And taking control of the rest of the world, so he'll be ready for the Last Battle. Oh, and did I mention kicking some Seanchan butt? We need more action as opposed to just a few things happening in each book. We also need Padan Fain/Mordeth/Ordeith to show up for a big showdown for Rand. We haven't hardly heard about him since the fifth book - there's a few mentions here and there, but not enough. Next, the line, "I'm in love with three girls, but I can't marry any of them - I'll just kill them when I go mad," is getting old fast. I mean, saidin is cleansed! And Rand is half-Aiel, after all... I don't think it's too indistinct of a possibility for Min to become a part of the "first-sister" thing, either. Regardless of this book's faults, I look forward to the next book in the series(and hope it's not another nine books till the Last Battle!).

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Sick of Complaining
Review: I can't stand all these reviewers complaining about the wheel of time books. I have read many other authors and have enjoyed many of them. But I keep coming back to the wheel of time to marvel at how well they are written. I admit that the recent books have become a bit bogged down in the details, but none of it is useless information. The extra words just help me get a better feel for each of the characters and better predict what might happen next.
The newest book, Winter's Heart, is a excellent book that speeds right along. The first time I read this book it took me one day. I say first time because I have read this book several times, as I have for every book in the series.
In conclusion, if you love a great fantasy story and have been having trouble finding an author that puts out, try these out. I suggest that you ignore all negative reviews on these books because they don't know what they're talking about.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: True Fans
Review: I can't believe all of the complaining from fans about this book. If you went back and actually took the time to re-read the reast of the series - you would realize all of the nuances and events that are occuring instead of being bored due to ignorance. Admittedly, the books due take QUITE a while to be published between each other, however, that is all the more reason to re-read since you forget so much! Jordan has built such a real, elaborate world that it would be cheating us to skip over minor characters since that attention to detail is what made us love them in the first place. Any who are bored with this book are not true fans and should just go back to reading their quick-action, no-think-required stories and leave the intellectually-pleasing, challenging world of Jordan to those of us that have the tools to appreciate it. (oh, and they should DEFITNITELY quit all their whining as well!)


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