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Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies

Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies

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Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Fascinating! for the layman
Review: Diamond's book is both an ambitious look at 5 million years of human history (in only about 430 pages)(plus copious notes), and an extended and elegant plea for history to come into consideration as a science and not merely a "humanities" area of study. Not being an historian or an anthropologist, I came to this book a complete layman, and I must say I learned a lot. Diamond has a clear style that makes even some of his more far-reaching theories accessible. I was frustrated by the way he "glossed over" opposing theories, but it makes complete sense as (a) if he didn't, his book would be MUCH longer, and (b) that's what all the bibliographies and notes in the back are for. There are plenty of paths left for the curious mind to follow other avenues of research. Diamond's basic premise is that Western European societies eventually came to colonize and establish dominant cultures across a vast swath of the planet due to geographic and agricultural factors, not due to any inherent superiority of Europeans. It is one of those hypothoses that most people will listen to and say, "Well, DUH." It makes sense - but how well can we explain WHY it makes sense? This book does that. It is a good study in how to apply critical thinking even to things that seem self-explanatory. He does tend to repeat himself a lot, but boy howdy does it get those ideas stuck in your head. He makes a point, demonstrates why it is so, makes it again. It's a good, solid book and a fascinating perspective on the whole of human history. I recommend it.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Highly intriguing and a great eye-opener
Review: good read. Great that many theories are synthesized and logical connections made between them.[...] Diamond's book is a panecea to [the] egregious malady [of biases and the most fraudulent view of Western superiority].

... this is a great read. though other reasons for the dominance of the west: 1) Emperor Constantine's adoption of xstianity and more importantly 2)the need for europeans to obtain the bountiful resources of india, china, etc. remember, it all started with vasco da gama returning from South west India(**) with cargo worth 60 times the cost of the voyage. this sparked the whole of europe with a mania more ebullient than tulipmania of the 1600s or the great internet boom of the late 90s, and lead to money being poured into sea -faring activities. this huge economic incentive gave impetus to the founding of the americas by columbus, which pumped huge amounts of the wealth needed by europe to begin their military and financial dominance over the world.

**the state of Kerala more popularly known then as the Spice coast or Malabar coast. almost every widely used spice and a mjority of citrus fruits originated here. the area has been described as heaven on earth, therefore one can easily understand the foreign interest. a german magazine stated that India was the richest nation on earth at the time of european colonization. this makes sense when one realizes the abundance of precious stones along with the huge trade surplus involving spices,textiles etc.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Why did whitey come out on top?
Review: That was the question, posed by a tribal leader in New Guinea, which piqued the curiosity of one Jared Diamond and fomented the production of this fascinating and accessible account of the development of human civilization.

Mr. Diamond begins with the first humans, and describes the movement and evolution of these humans. He demonstrates the primacy of environment to the progress of people groups and crafts a convincing case for the what might be called the "right place at the right time" school of cultural supremacy.

Advantages such as a wide variety of domesticable plants and animals and the ease of transmission of technologies explain the rapid rise of some to meteor heights without reference to any innate superiority.

The advantages bestowed by their respective geography culminated in the development of Guns, Germs and Steel by the would-be-colonizers.

In short, this book weaves the bare facts of World geography into a wholesale account of the development of human societies. Mr. Diamond is fully cognizant of the political ramifications of accounting for the different development rates of people groups, thus he is careful to eschew any idea that would smack of racial superiority and reaffirm the completely contingent and external sources of such differences.

Diamond, in fact, essentially assumes that racial or ethnic differences are irrelevant. He makes numerous attempts to discredit theories based upon racial difference and restricts his positive explanatory assertions to those based upon geography.

The Book is a fascinating speculative account of the development of human society. It seemed to me that he was a bit too curt in dispensing other, less politically palatable, explanations for this phenomena. In so doing, he abstains from bringing the death knell down on the claim of an innate basis for racial disparities. His ultimate conclusions were hamstrung by his self-imposed political constraints that serve to hamper the compelling case that he makes in opposition. Nonetheless, the book is so ambitious and fascinating, that I was more than willing to overlook this shortcoming.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: a breathtaking overview
Review: A few years ago, I read an account in the New Yorker of an Eskimo man who entered Harvard and became a stellar student. I was surprised at this, and then, surprised at myself for my reaction. I had prided myself in possessing an egalitarian belief in the capabilities and talents of all people, and was caught up short when I realized that I had questioned the adaptability of a man from what we would call a "primitive" society.

In his Pulitzer-prize winning study, Jared Diamond broadens our thinking, providing an antidote for the idea that people from one culture are innately superior to people from any others. He discusses factors like climate, animals suited for domestication, edible native plants, geographic barriers of desert and mountains, and epidemic disease.

This book, despite being reader-friendly, is one that will take some concentrated time to digest. Diamond encompasses a variety of scientific disciplines---biology and anthropology, of course, but also physics and climatology, among others. He also incorporates the "humanities" fields of history and philosophy. In the final chapter, in what I see as evidence of both modesty and probing curiosity, he raises a number of questions for further consideration and study.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: One of the most incredible books you'll ever read.
Review: Concerning global power imbalances, the best book on this subject I have ever read, by a million country miles, is "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond.

It's one of the most amazing books I've ever read, truly original, thoroughly researched and completely logical.

Basically, it says that while there is genetic variation amongst the human population (which is obvious), and while this means that certain sub-groups are better or worse in certain characteristics than others - this is all insignificant.

What is significant is that no matter which group of people you picked - whether a current specific sub-group or frankly any set of healthy humans at random - they will exploit their immediate environment to the maximum capability.

So the power imbalances, and he gives numerous thorough and globally complete examples of these, are entirely due to different starting environments.

Essentially, if you went back 2000 years and swapped the American Indian population with the British population of the time, the present would still look exactly the same, because the British colonisation of the America's wasn't based on any inherent white superiority over red, but was based in the fact that European domesticated crops and animals were more useful and advantageous than American domesticated crops and animals.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The way it really is.
Review: I simply am a terrific fan of any book that makes sense. This one does. It is well written covering a very complex subject that can be overwhelming. It was not. If you want to know why the universe is the way it is this book is superb. Only E. O. Wilson is a comperable master of being able to accomplish this.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A must-read book/Estupendo libro sobre la historia humana
Review: We shouldn't expect to have "the history of everybody" in a 400-pages book, but the information showed in this one will make you feel it was so. Moreover, the author's style is nice and you will not get lost in the data from several fields of natural and human sciences: you'll enjoy them.

To Spanish readers:

Este es un magnífico libro sobre la historia de la humanidad. Es demasiado ambicioso cubrir en 400 páginas la historia completa del ser humano, pero la información presentada da la sensación de que así ha sido.

El estilo del autor es excelente; relaciona muy bien los datos que presenta aun siendo de áreas diferentes: antropología, física, botánica, idiomas, etc. Esto le da al libro una continuidad que lo hace más interesante.

Leí la versión en inglés y estoy buscándolo en español.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: A Simple Twist of Fate
Review: This is a fascinating and comprehensive attempt to understand the present makeup of the world population. Why do some societies thrive while others die on the vine? His basic arguments are compelling though the scope is a bit overwhelming. If you grew up next to crops that could be domesticated and with large animals to help plow the fields and that you could eat, you have a helluva chance of surviving and growing. If the population grows, more innovations happen. Armies can be supported and expansion can proceed. If you also happen to live on a land mass with an east-west axis, rather than north-south, you have the latitude thing going for you and better diffusion for your crops.

In other words, it really isn't a race thing. Fascinating in its' scope, though a bit pedantic and repetitive on the same issues.It's really a question of survival of those born in the hood.

Most interesting parts. Pizarro and the Incas, the problem with domesticating zebras, Madagascar being Asian(10,000 years ago, going 4000 miles across the Indian Ocean without a compass or map?!);Bantus not making it to southern Africa and not blocking European expansion in south Africa, thus changing history, the origin of disease-stay away from those pigs, China's walking away from their lead in development, and the overall detective work, tying in biology, archeology and linguistics.

Have you eaten your wheaties?

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: No
Review: This book plays into the politically correct attitude that no one is the master of his fate, that losers are always merely victims. I highly highly recommend as a book to balance this one, Lawrence Harrison's book WHO PROSPERS?

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: History is written by the victor.
Review: Diamond writes from the perspective of the victor. This compromises the integrity and content. Obvious clues stare him in the face, but he refuses to see them. He admits hunter-gatherer worked less hard to survive than the farming counterparts. He admits humans are included in the category "animal". But the explanation as to the slow acceptance of farming and civilization are still attributed to a flaw, or problem within the people themselves. The idea these people chose to remain hunter-gatherer over farmer is outside his realm of possibility. This is why he claims there are still many questions unanswered. Inaccurate and ethnocentric.


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