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Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America

Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America

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Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Plausible? Most definitely......
Review: The author, who fought as a rifleman in Viet Nam, Africa, and the Balkans certainly has a unique and uniquely qualified perspective. His 'republic to empire' progression is certainly different from other writers. I don't agree with some of his conclusions, although he indeed presents a scenario worth pondering.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Good analysis of America's major problem
Review: The basic theme of the book is the conversion of the United States from a democracy into a multiethnic, undemocratic, imperial system. Or the conversion of the U.S. into a banana republic. Very good analysis presented in an understandable way. A book for every Amercian interested in knowing where this country is headed.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Belongs on any list of important reads for the new decade
Review: The current consensus view of America's future is that we'll continue to be a happy prosperous melting pot, and that economic growth will offset the combined effects of the unfunded age wave and the massive new influx of foreign immigration.

I'm a classical liberal and I deeply, truly wish that would come to pass. I'm still looking for ways in which that optimistic outcome can be helped along.

But virtually no one is talking about the possible consequences if we fail to do that. Nor is there any discussion of the possible causes of failure, or of the likelihood that things could come apart in rapid and ugly fashion.

No one except Tom Chittum (and Peter Brimelow in "Alien Nation") is daring or even bothering to ask hard questions of this type. And that in itself scares me. As Chittum notes, the US is now a multicultural imperial power. All such nations in history have disintegrated violently.

Failures which are avoided are most often the ones that have been anticipated. But America's not running any downside scenarios for itself other than in these small books. Big mistake.

I live in CA, right on top of the San Andreas Fault, but that's trivial compared to the new demographic and cultural and linguistic and economic fault lines I see opening all around my community. And that's not the future. That is today's reality.

Some of Chittum's analysis can be faulted. I do not share his political position, which is pretty far out on the right as far as I can infer. I would also bet on a long period of political infighting long before shooting would start.

But I learned some unsettling things from this book that I didn't know before. The facts check out. If you want cotton candy, look someplace else. If you want a hard look at the USA in Y2K plus 10, read Chittum.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Products of the past.
Review: The proposed problems this book relates to are the same problems we had in the late 1700's , the late 1800's . All having to do with a Gov't imposing their authority over a people or culture . If and when this episode happens it is at best 130+ yrs. belated. I do believe there is a limit to ones complacency , regardless of race/ethnicity.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: As multiethnicity expands, the book is a growing reality
Review: The topic is very deserving of discussion. Those who try to dismiss it as silly are either closed-minded or uncomfortable about the topic for hidden political reasons. The concept of a turmoil-ridden America is indeed legitimate and possible.

Chittum recognizes that racial identification & racial wars are an absolute. It's not about racial superiority, nor about 'hatred' or lack of interest in one another, it's about differing ideologies and few societies will not dismiss their beliefs without a fight (except perhaps the currently passive white American population). Walk into any multi-ethnic city, look closer beyond just the exotic restaurants and giddy commercialism and you will see there is indeed racial division, businesses and institutions regularly are heavily weighed with one culture and one ideology and those not of the same skin color must always succomb to conformity; neighborhoods are often the same and voting trends are noticeably xenophobic; local-based newspapers especially newsletters also focus on only one or a few very similar races of people and act as political voice (i.e. AsianWeek in San Francisco), and the topics of their discussion are seemingly of antipathy towards other differing cultures and groups and the survival, pride & betterment of their own race. A group culture -- a race -- forms automatically and race-groups do indeed war with each other. Racial conflict and violence based on one race against another is and always has been a fact of life -- different skin colors, different histories, and differing ideologies lead to conflict and war, and this is the reasoning behind Mr. Chittum's literature. The idea that the actual determinant of human collaboration is 'class' or 'wealth' and not race is an absolute hoax -- one need only look at their own workplace or group gathering and ask, "do the various ethnic workers who are all in the same level positions really see eye-to-eye? Can they really let their guard down and speak their minds without hesitation in the same way two people of the same race can?" The answer is obviously "no." Further asking the question "does it usually seem that a conversation between two people of different races is almost always superficial?" Yes. Thus we have the simplest of explanations of human & societal emotions, and when tensions rise which they always do, race-groups war with each other unless one group decides to back down and towards extinction (current white society). Chittum recognizes racial wars far beyond the average person and his book will not let it escape you.

In my opinion America is held together because the white population is remaining politically submissive and being taken advantage of, but compromise will only last so long before the races reach war.

Mr. Chittum is a smart man but his book is not commercial and he is not a fluffy PhD academic -- he doesn't take any sides, he wholly admits for example that whites did indeed drive indians into near extinction until compromise was reached, and his focus is always on the reality of such ruthlessness. Interestingly he discusses almost no contemporary politics (except cleverly how affirmative action would bloom into racial preference and divide many institutions in America such as law enforcement), Bill Clinton's name not mentioned once, and focuses his thesis on: the development and reason of war tensions, some historians and military leaders' explanation for battle, the danger a disorganized Mexico poses, other nations and empires both recent and past and their experiences which coincidently mirrors each others' and how history always does repeat itself. He explains militias, gangs, and guerilla tribes.

I think his reasoning was very fair, I learned that indeed guerilla tribes are much more savage and fight-till-death than 'orderly' government military branches, that our current military bases are designed more for international war and not domestic and are only guarded by a few security guards which could easily be overthrown in the middle of the night by a band of 20 savages who have nothing to lose; furthermore he discusses how he actually witnessed this in Yugoslavia. I agree with him that there is a steady rise of untrained young males in America who would find nihilistic uprising as their only path to happiness, especially as opportunity and economy wither significantly. He does well to explain direct evidence showing even blatant racial division inside the US military.

I was overwhelmed by his incredible command of knowledge of the depth of corruption in Mexico and how it is a disfunctional govenment. I learned well from his section of "Mao-Tse Tung's three conditions for revolution." One must agree that police are often biased towards the majority population in their region and often let crimes go, as well police departments growing towards the same skin color and ideology of the population to the point of corruption, all learned from reading Mr. Chittum's book that the government will be in a complete bind when at war with it's own citizens because if the government decides to obliterate a large segment of the rebellion they would be viewed negatively, thus increasing political turmoil, but if not using such massive weapons the large uprising would be out of control.

Chittum proposes that America will continue to grow into disorder because of numerous races, immigrants, and ideologies like that of an empire, and unlike the first Civil War which was mainly North-whites against South-whites, the second Civil War will be about races against each other, and against the government.

Mr. Chittum gives numerous checklists to keep 'watch' for, as well as discussion of what regions will experience what. His book is only about 200 pages, is quite unorthodox in nature, and is primarily focused on battle and war related tensions, as he served in the militaries of three different countries, all of them during wartimes. The only problem I have with the book is that he did not discuss how a Civil War 2 will put America at risk of international attack, otherwise it is useful. A real life homework task.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: As multiethnicity expands, the book is a growing reality
Review: The topic is very deserving of discussion. Those who try to dismiss it as silly are either closed-minded or uncomfortable about the topic for hidden political reasons. The concept of a turmoil-ridden America is indeed legitimate and possible.

Chittum recognizes that racial identification & racial wars are an absolute. It's not about racial superiority, nor about 'hatred' or lack of interest in one another, it's about differing ideologies and few societies will not dismiss their beliefs without a fight (except perhaps the currently passive white American population). Walk into any multi-ethnic city, look closer beyond just the exotic restaurants and giddy commercialism and you will see there is indeed racial division, businesses and institutions regularly are heavily weighed with one culture and one ideology and those not of the same skin color must always succomb to conformity; neighborhoods are often the same and voting trends are noticeably xenophobic; local-based newspapers especially newsletters also focus on only one or a few very similar races of people and act as political voice (i.e. AsianWeek in San Francisco), and the topics of their discussion are seemingly of antipathy towards other differing cultures and groups and the survival, pride & betterment of their own race. A group culture -- a race -- forms automatically and race-groups do indeed war with each other. Racial conflict and violence based on one race against another is and always has been a fact of life -- different skin colors, different histories, and differing ideologies lead to conflict and war, and this is the reasoning behind Mr. Chittum's literature. The idea that the actual determinant of human collaboration is 'class' or 'wealth' and not race is an absolute hoax -- one need only look at their own workplace or group gathering and ask, "do the various ethnic workers who are all in the same level positions really see eye-to-eye? Can they really let their guard down and speak their minds without hesitation in the same way two people of the same race can?" The answer is obviously "no." Further asking the question "does it usually seem that a conversation between two people of different races is almost always superficial?" Yes. Thus we have the simplest of explanations of human & societal emotions, and when tensions rise which they always do, race-groups war with each other unless one group decides to back down and towards extinction (current white society). Chittum recognizes racial wars far beyond the average person and his book will not let it escape you.

In my opinion America is held together because the white population is remaining politically submissive and being taken advantage of, but compromise will only last so long before the races reach war.

Mr. Chittum is a smart man but his book is not commercial and he is not a fluffy PhD academic -- he doesn't take any sides, he wholly admits for example that whites did indeed drive indians into near extinction until compromise was reached, and his focus is always on the reality of such ruthlessness. Interestingly he discusses almost no contemporary politics (except cleverly how affirmative action would bloom into racial preference and divide many institutions in America such as law enforcement), Bill Clinton's name not mentioned once, and focuses his thesis on: the development and reason of war tensions, some historians and military leaders' explanation for battle, the danger a disorganized Mexico poses, other nations and empires both recent and past and their experiences which coincidently mirrors each others' and how history always does repeat itself. He explains militias, gangs, and guerilla tribes.

I think his reasoning was very fair, I learned that indeed guerilla tribes are much more savage and fight-till-death than 'orderly' government military branches, that our current military bases are designed more for international war and not domestic and are only guarded by a few security guards which could easily be overthrown in the middle of the night by a band of 20 savages who have nothing to lose; furthermore he discusses how he actually witnessed this in Yugoslavia. I agree with him that there is a steady rise of untrained young males in America who would find nihilistic uprising as their only path to happiness, especially as opportunity and economy wither significantly. He does well to explain direct evidence showing even blatant racial division inside the US military.

I was overwhelmed by his incredible command of knowledge of the depth of corruption in Mexico and how it is a disfunctional govenment. I learned well from his section of "Mao-Tse Tung's three conditions for revolution." One must agree that police are often biased towards the majority population in their region and often let crimes go, as well police departments growing towards the same skin color and ideology of the population to the point of corruption, all learned from reading Mr. Chittum's book that the government will be in a complete bind when at war with it's own citizens because if the government decides to obliterate a large segment of the rebellion they would be viewed negatively, thus increasing political turmoil, but if not using such massive weapons the large uprising would be out of control.

Chittum proposes that America will continue to grow into disorder because of numerous races, immigrants, and ideologies like that of an empire, and unlike the first Civil War which was mainly North-whites against South-whites, the second Civil War will be about races against each other, and against the government.

Mr. Chittum gives numerous checklists to keep 'watch' for, as well as discussion of what regions will experience what. His book is only about 200 pages, is quite unorthodox in nature, and is primarily focused on battle and war related tensions, as he served in the militaries of three different countries, all of them during wartimes. The only problem I have with the book is that he did not discuss how a Civil War 2 will put America at risk of international attack, otherwise it is useful. A real life homework task.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: Shows the comedy of a paranoid taking an idea to its extreme
Review: There's a reason why I give this book a rather moderate review. For sheer readability it certainly deserves higher. Obviously my own personal biases about the topics discussed are going to cloud one's opinion of any matter, no matter what they may be. Surely I think Chittum is going a bit far, especially in the timeline predictions of the fall of America. But I don't doubt it's coming, I don't doubt a full-scale, massive race war will wipe out the government and make room for foreign powers to eventually move in and set up shop. No, none of this is too far out, although not likely in the next 20 years, but everyone writing a bound to be contraversial book needs a hook or catch to summon up all the righteous converts to get up an army and live off in the mountains somewhere. In fact, the over-the-top exaggeration I just set out is indicitive of the encroaching silliness and ghastly paranoia--all the more amusing by its hard-boiled tone--of this book. It is very funny, but not particularly credible in its effort to pass itself off as a serious warning essay. I don't want to imply that Chittum is a right-wing nut, or some frothing mouthed lunitic, just that the tone and lack of follow-up, coupled with a rely-on-my-opinions stance blows craters of relevence out of the work. Chalk it up as a good futuristic thriller/apocaylpse novel taking itself way too seriously.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: 5 based on statistics
Review: There's lies, goddam lies, and statistics. However, Tom has it pegged. The probability is very high that this will happen. Now we have the facts in on the NWO from what they did to Serbia, this gives his analysis all the more credence. This book is a must as it is also from the mind of someone very human.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: A Very informative book
Review: This book decribes the fears of many Americans. C.W.2 is extreamly informative. However I would rather read a more action packed novel such as the "Turner Diaries" or "Hunter".

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Very good predictions
Review: This book is an excellent prediction of what is to come in the next century. Not only are black and hispanic militancy on the rise, but White movements are gaining adherents daily, probably in response to the crimes perpetrated against Whites by these other races. Mr. Chittum's predictions are also backed up with statistics, and he also shows that past multiethnic empires have broken up. Read it and prepare.


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