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Tides of War

Tides of War

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Rating: 3 stars
Summary: A long run for a short slide
Review: I just can't get my head around this. I thought it would be engaging but that is not the case. I finished this book was by sheer willpower. It fails to deliver any power right up to the end. Oh well, I didn't have any great expectations for this book and was not disappointed. You can live without reading this book.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Epic Novel about Ancient Greece
Review: In Tides of War, the author of Gates of Fire plunges us again into the long ago world of Ancient Greece. The most vivid parts of this book are the battle scenes, where one not only smells the gore but the fear of men engaged in combat. The book succeeds less in it's depictions of historical charectors, especially the egnimatic Alcibiades. However on the balance, Tides of War is one of the best historical novels so far this year.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Review of Tides of War
Review: I was drawn to Tides of War after reading Steven Pressfield's historic epic Gates of Fire, and found it extremely entertaining both in writing craftsmanship and in subject matter. The book's greatness lies not only in the enormous sweep of the Peloponnesian War with all its triumphs and tragedies, but also in the fast-paced and riveting "narrative-within-a-narrative" writing style, which Pressfield uses very successfully. Polemides, a first-person observer narrates the story of the charismatic Alcibiades, who rose to fame as an unsurpassed Athenian general/admiral who, at the height of his rising star, changed allegiance to become a top war leader for rival Sparta. Jason, the legal advocate of Polemides and who renders the second narrative of the book by recounting the war to his grandson, elaborates upon and "fleshes out" the story of Athens' downfall by adding his own experiences as an Athenian admiral and by divulging anecdotal stories of important third party Athenian generals during the war. Pressfield's writing genius is much in evidence for his vivid and majestic description of the departure of the Athenian war fleet for its invasion of Syracuse and for the Alcibiades-led Athenian surprise attack on Spartan-held Ephesus, as well as for Polemides' narration of the crushing, spirit-numbing final Athenian defeat at the hands of the Syracusians. Pressfield's unique prosaic ability accurately captures the dialogue of such diverse characters as Socrates in his discourse on Athenian democracyand the obligation for obedience to its laws, to the coarse, uneducated banter of the common foot soldiers and Athenian street-kids. This book is well worth reading, not only for its highly interesting subject matter, but equally for its masterful presentation by a truly fine historical novelist who is peerless in his knowledge and depiction of ancient Greece.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Superb.
Review: Tides of War, Mr. Pressfield's latest installment in a projected series of 'epic' novels set in classical times, is one of the finest novels of the year. Though not elipsing or eaching the ambient heights of Gates of Fire, the novel is an excellent and entertaining book.

Its most irritating imperfection- and it is but a tiny insignificant matter- is Pressfield's obvious affinity for imitating Homer's Iliad in the battle scenes, i.e. As [something common and domestic does something common and domestic], so did [insert name here] [do something very draqmtic and presumably indescribable], but even this is reduced significantly from Gates of Fire. Historically, Tides of War is generally quite accurate. The mention below of the omission of Alcibiades' relationship with Socrates was not a lack of research, in my opinion, but a matter of taste and prudence. And the portrayal of the characters as "superheroes" is accurate with the anecdotal nature of the book.

In fact, Pressfield's novels rank as some of the best classical novels of the twentieth century. Read Tides of War, but get it from your local library. Get your own copy in paperback.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: horrible!
Review: This book is horrible! I could only read half of it. Polymides is the greek Dr. Kevorkian and Alcibiades is the greek Bill Clinton (at least Alcibiades is not afraid to fight)! These "heros" are just disgusting. Absolutely no moral integrity at all. Wholly self serving.It is full of sodomites and fornicators.Homosexuals are not my heros! If this is Greek culture, I am not impressed! Thank God they were conquered by Rome.Order instead "My Glorious Brothers"by Howard Fast. Judas Maccabee will show you what he thinks about greek culture and their pagan religion! Save your money and do not buy this book!

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Interesting Attempt, but Disappointing!
Review: I purchased this book with great anticipation, having very much enjoyed "Gates of Fire". Unfortunately the things which I liked so much in that book are largely missing in this one. The depiction of the hoplite's experience in very personal terms made "Gates of Fire" an engrossing read; as with all great historical fiction (whether the facts are right or not), Pressfield created a detailed and believable world populated by realistic characters with which we could empathize. "Tides of War" has flashes of this (as with the carefully constructed description of the critical action at Syracuse), but most of it is a rather dry, impersonal exposition of chronological history, that--most of the time--does not engage us on a visceral level. I read "Gates of Fire" with so much pleasure that I will probably continue to buy further Pressfield books, but had "Tides of War" been his first endeavour, that would not be the case. Still, not a bad try (given its ambitious story line), but only a middling success!

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Terrible, and not even historical accurate
Review: This may not be the worst book I've ever read but it is certainly a serious contender.

It is written in a completely ridiculous, pompous language that the writer probably thought "lyrical", "epic" or some such nonsense. It actually reaches a level of pretentiousness and gracelessness that I would have never have believed the English tongue could be brought down to. It is a book fit for people who like to fantasise about war in the most unrealistic possible way, whose idea of "honour", "virtue" or some such has stopped at a kindergarten level and that have never been exposed, through ignorance or lack of empathy, with the reality of violence and strife.

It is not even very historically accurate. What most angered me was the complete and total glossing over the sex mores of Pericles's era. The book accepts as still valid the values system of classical Greece, but lacks the guts to deal with those uncomfortable realities that would violate the conservative sensibilities of its intended readers: slavery, the condition of women, the widespread acceptance of homosexuality and paedophilia. Perhaps the most well-known fact about Alcibiades is his attempt to seduce - physically seduce - Socrates, attested by Plato. The chronicles of the time make no mystery of his equal passion for women and men. But this book, though it has Alcibiades as his main character and Socrates as a minor one, makes no mention that homosexuality existed in Greece at the time, let alone that "eros" at the time was what went on almost exclusively between males, so much so that Plutarch, writing much later and when sensibilities had shifted, thinks it appropriate to dedicate several pages to convince his readers that girls can, indeed, inspire love as well as boys.

Instead, much is made of the married bliss of the protagonists, attributing to him a sentiment of affection and romantic love for his new wife that was very rare indeed at the time and in that place and whose extollment (goodness me, I'm starting to write like him!) was certainly the farthest thing from an average virtuos Greek's mind.

One could also mention that Alcibiades is one of the most fascinating and contradictory characters in the whole course of Western History, and that this book completely fails to make something of the excellent material afforded by such a figure.

Get Gene Wolfe's "Soldier of the Mist" instead.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A magnificent, sumptuous, inspiring classic!
Review: A huge treat awaits you in this monumental epic, Tides of War. Much as he did in his heart-pounding tale of the Spartans (Gates of Fire), the author sweeps you deep into the psyche of ancient Greece where our ears ring with familiar shouts of victory and our hearts despair at dreams gone mad. One of the great master storytellers, Pressfield keeps you fast to the elbow of her most illustrious heroes and rogues as they clash through the great drama of a democracy unfolding amidst the heartbreaking mercurial wrath of human nature.

I grew up with naive, fuzzy images of an idealistic ancient Greece peopled with a few of Homer's noble and ignoble characters sparring with their fates about the shins of Olympus. Then Pressfield, with admirable scholarship and a soulful grasp of the times, introduces me to the rest of the crew and many fascinating surprises: Here the capricious mob of Athens' infant attempt at democracy literally drives some of its finest, most loyal young generals over a cliff to their deaths. Here we see a stout young Socrates, hunkering behind his war shield, as he takes his stand on the field of battle before his days as a renowned philosopher. But best of all by far, here I meet the incomparable Alcibiades-charismatic, majestically composed in body and soul, a breathtaking visionary general/statesman loved and hated at once by both his enemies and countryman.

If you can imagine a man who exudes the combined charisma of a JFK and Brad Pitt, who commands with the visionary authority of a Patton and MacArthur, and whose mere presence in the planetary neighborhood is enough to cause kings and lesser generals to shape their national agenda around him . . . you have a little hint of our man Alcibiades. Not only is this story a mesmerizing feast of literature, it filled many major gaps in my sense of history in a most enjoyable fashion. It's up on my top shelf, a place reserved only for the finest classics.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Tides of War
Review: Tides of War is just as enthralling and hard to put down as was Gates of Fire. Not since I read James Clavell's Shogun 25 years ago has an author so totally transported my imagination to another time, place, and culture. This book is a brilliant work of fiction, a fascinating window into a tumultuous period of history, and a powerfully insightful exploration of philosophical questions that are just as important today as they were in the days of Socrates. My only disappointment is knowing that I'll have to wait a while for the next book in the series.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Everything Old Is New Again
Review: Mr. Pressfield's latest offering, in addition to being beautifully written and fastidiously researched, holds up a mirror to our modern "demos." In this era of "the politics of personal destruction," "Tides of War" serves notice that we so-called Moderns may have nothing on the political in-fighting, spitefulness and ad hominem shenanigans of the Ancients. Whether Mr. Pressfield so intended his tale to reflect is subject to debate; but how fascinating to view "firsthand" a city-state 2300 and more years gone by who, like us, bit the hand that fed it and vilified the man who brought them their greatest triumph, not over his actions in pursuit of duty, but over alleged perfidy in his personal life.

I gladly recommend this book to anyone who likes a good story well-told. A passing familiarity with Ancient Greece is convenient but not necessary. The first person technique utilized by Mr. Pressfield is every bit as effective and un-affected as it was in his previous novels, "Gates of Fire" and "The Legend Of Bagger Vance." The only problem with reading this book is that it so immerses the reader that, upon completion, one may only sit, stunned momentarily, with the growing realization that, as with Alcibiades himself, it will likely be awhile before we see the likes of "Tides Of War" again.


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