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Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos: How to Play Craps and Win

Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos: How to Play Craps and Win

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Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A very sensible approach to the sport of Craps
Review: One of the statements that should be underscored in this or any book about Craps is that "you don't always win."

Make a few other statements your Crap religious exercise also:

1. Don't chase money.
2. Maximize wins and minimize losses.

I'm one of those low rollers who plays the 5 count Doey-Don't Supersystem at 10X and 2X tables at 1-10 and 5-10, respectively. The author would likely consider me a "barnacle." I've played this strategy for quite a while. I play in real games only about 12 times a year. My results over the years are that I've come home from playing after about three days of session visits on a spectrum of $-275 to $+876.

I just returned from a Laughlin 3-day group of sessions with the following results on the 5 Count Doey-Don't Supersystem. In 10X sessions at 1-10 I was +169. On the 2X 5-10 sessions I was +176. I add that these are actually sobering figures. I was actually up +446 in the 2X sessions, but sustained a serial loss of breaking 7 sessions at conclusion. I always listen to the strategists' advice....leave a winner if at all possible. There is always another craps game tomorrow.

My best session experience with the 5 count Doey-Don't was at a casino in Sparks, Nevada. In a 10X odds game at 2-20 I came out at +896 after an hour of a non-breaking roller.

Computer simulation of these experiences which I play daily at home bear these "real" experiences out. It runs about the same. Perhaps I've never met a roller who insists on the ability to "set" dice.

The critical point of vulnerability on so-called "at risk" money is from the 5-10 count when the 7 shows before any odds-on points have hit. One needs to hit 3-4 points per series in order NOT to sustain a loss on average. My level before I walk away from the table is down 15 "at risk" units...then I walk to play another time.

Different than the author's suggestion, when I triple my "at risk" units, which are 10 X 4, I quit rather than spreading out. I figure I've had my hot roll that session. Rather than beefing up the bankroll, I take my winnings to things like CDs, DVDs, and new computers. I also pay for my hotel and meals while gambling.

Another writer I've enjoyed when it comes to Craps is J. Edward Allen. The 5 count Doey-Don't Supersystem differs from his play stretegy in that one hopes to win or lose on free odds bets only while Pass-Don't Pass Bets offset one another. He suggests keeping a session stake of 7X the betting units. In this case it is 10 X 7. If that is doubled, one has done well. In my most recent experience, even after a bad run at the 2X table I doubled my session stake and tripled overall my "at risk" units. While modest, I paid for my trip and did not lose my bankroll.

I recommend trying this out in a disciplined way, not trying to chase money, make Crazy Crapper bets, and not trying to second guess the dice at a 25 cent or dollar table over time. I think you will see that long-term this method of playing will bear fruit.

What this system DOES do is protect you from the early breaking rolls before a lot of points start showing. It does NOT protect you in that very vulnerable period of 5-10 rolls where, according to theory, the 7 should show according to standard probability. If you use a computer simulation that keeps good statistics, you will be truly amazed at the amount of money you are actually betting overall at this level in about 60-70 rolls.

I also recommend Forever Craps which extends this material a bit and was published a couple of years later. I've not yet discovered any saner approach to this game than this method.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A Classic
Review: I love this book. I've read it five times and bought copies for my craps playing friends. It is a classic. You'll meet the Captain, the Arm, and the Crew. You'll learn about the 5-Count. Then after this book, get Forever Craps, that book might even be a better book. But Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos is still the classic and the standard.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: I'm in the Green and I Ain't Irish!
Review: I bought this book three years ago and never read it. I lost money steadily in the casinos. So I found the copy in a pile of stuff and I read it. What a jerk I was. This book has now saved my craps life. I have used the low-roller system and it works. The 5 count is the best way to play and I wish I had read the darn book before I played the past few years. But I'm now in the green. If you are looking for aa way to play craps that makes sense and dollars this is it.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: 5-Count Really Works
Review: I use this system and it really works. I have played it now for six months every day of the week in Downtown Las Vegas and in the Boulder Hwy casinos. Not only do you last a real long time at the tables but when a hot roller comes along you have enough money left to really take advantage of it. And you are always on the hot roller. I have never seen a better system to play.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Deserves to Be Number One
Review: This book was great and deserves its status as the craps book that changed the way smart players play the game. I have now used the five count for six months in my twice weekly visits to Vegas and it works just like the book says it works. I also loved the stories about The ARM and the Captain seems like a really cool guy.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The First Winning Method Ever Developed
Review: My title tells it all. This book, published in 1991, was the first book to talk about the Captain, the 5-Count, rhythmic rolling, great shooters such as the ARM and how to get a real edge at the game. Since this book Frank Scoblete has written many more, all of them worth reading as he is a great writer, but this one is the classic. You should read this first and then read all of Frank's other books on craps, finishing with Forever Craps and the new book that Frank is involved in by Sharpshooter, Get the Edge at Craps: How to Control the dice. The only knock I have on this first book is that Frank advocates a style of betting, the supersystem, that I don't agree with. But that is a quibble. The book is a must, must, must read for serious craps players, especially if you are beginning to get a feeling that the game might be capable of being beaten.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Loved this book
Review: I not only enjoyed this book when I read it eight years ago but I loved it when I just reread it last month. Scoblete was the first writer to understand that craps is more than just the traditional math and that shooters could change the nature of the game by their rhythmic rolling. This book deserves its place as one of the all-time great classics of gambling literature.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: Interesting system - Does it work ???
Review: Read it - Haven't tried it, yet... an interesting approach but some questionable statistics, for instance it claims Pass line with full odds has a "tax of 7.41" while PLACE bets has a tax of 6.24 and his "Doey-Don't system is only 1.39. Every source I've ever seen has the pass line at 1.41 and with odds it drops down to .81 or .61... and NO ONE has ever claimed that place bets have better odds that the pass-line with odds.

Still the system does slow down the action and avoids those quick 7-outs. However he totally discounts "Don't betting" saying it antagonizes other player. Table go cold (sometimes for long stretches as the author admits) and the best deal is to bet with the flow when that happens. I'd rather win than worry about what the other players think (and most could care less how you bet). But IF the systems work (and that's a big IF), it's worth the 10 bucks.

A better book is Mark Goodman's "Your Best Bet" (its out of print but can be bought second hand).

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: This Started Me Winning
Review: I bought this book over ten years ago and it made my craps playing life great. Since then I have bought other books by Scoblete and they have all been exceptionally well written and all contained winning strategies. But this was the first! Scoblete was the first writer to talk about rhythm rolls and controlling the dice. His 5-Count is the first serious attempt to find hot shooters with a workable method. Buy this book. It's a gem!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The Beginnings of a Great Series
Review: This is the first of three craps books written by Frank Scoblete. As such, it introduces you to the 5-Count and other methods created by the Captain to beat craps. This is a great book, as are the other two in the series, The Captain's Craps Revolution and Forever Craps: The Five Step Advantage Play Method. You'll also be introduced to the Captain and his crew. The book is well written and is extremely interesting and, more importantly, it is economically rewarding!...


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