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Visual InterDev 6 Unleashed

Visual InterDev 6 Unleashed

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Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Not for beginners, but excellent for an intermediate user
Review: Considering the importance of Visual InterDev 6, and the marketability of VI6 certification, I am puzzled by the scarcity of good books on the subject. Thurrott, et al., have produced one of the better ones. It is a compendium of VI6 topics that cover all the necessary aspects of VI6 development. Rather than introducing the reader to the mechanics of the interface, the book is true to its stated assumption that readers already "have a basic understanding of the product." Perhaps the authors took this too much to heart in their chapter layout. For example, in the very beginning of the book are the topics "Creating Cross-Browser Web Applications", "Using Dynamic HTML" and "Programming the Scripting Object Model". Now, these are certainly important subjects, but if you are attempting to learn VI6 from scratch, these topics seem to come out of nowhere. If, on the other hand, you have been using VI6 for a short time, and have already read an introductory book, such as Microsoft's "Using Visual Interdev 6" or Sams' "Teach Yourself Visual Interdev 6 in 24 Hours", then Thorrott's book seems to start in just about the right place.

WEAKNESSES: First of all, I must state that when I read a developer book such as this, I use the concepts discussed in the text to create my own sample code to test those concepts. I seldom copy the text examples onto my system, and seldom test the sample code on the accompanying CD. (Most CD's that are shipped with books contain very little that might interest me. I would prefer that the publisher keep the CD, and lower the book price. Besides, placing the examples on a publisher's web site, rather than on a CD, allows them to be corrected dynamically.) So, I can not comment on the issue of the examples working as is. My own examples, created using the text as a guide, worked fine. So, speaking of the book alone, its greatest weakness is in chapter to chapter flow. Each chapter seems to work well in covering its designated topic. I did not find this to be a significant distraction. Another area of weakness was in the amorphous arena of browser support for specific features. While I realize that this is a moving target, simply stating that Netscape and IE interpret stylesheets differently is inadequate.

STRENGTHS: I loved the simple example of creating a VB component for Web data access, then running it within Microsoft Transaction Server (MTS). Since all component discussion emphasized the importance of custom marshalling of parameters, rather than utilizing class properties in DCOM, the component examples were already suitable for MTS, which prefers stateless objects. VB old-timers, who are accustomed to programming object classes will appreciate this.

A great strength in the text is the frequent clarification of particular techniques that work and those that don't -- based entirely on the experience of the authors. And there are wise and bold assertions of which technologies to avoid. I was particularly pleased with the inclusion, in the appendixes (I guess they're not 'appendices' any more.) of over 300 pages of quick references (7 in all) covering HTML, JavaScript, VBScript, Active Server Objects, ActiveX Data Objects, T-SQL, and the Scripting Object Model. Although none is in great depth, they usually provide all the necessary info to jog the memory of someone who is already familiar with their subjects.

For experienced VB developers, this book provides the essential guidance needed for breaking old habits when making the transition to web application development. And since many intro books on Active Server Pages (ASP) tend to encourage the intermingling of VBScript and HTML, Thurrott, et al., provide the antidote, and the reasons why. There is a lot of wisdom here.

CONCLUSION: While this is not a particularly good choice for a complete beginner at VI6, it is an excellent book for an experienced VB developer who needs to sort out the plethora of options and approaches available in VI6, or for the novice who has already made it through one of the beginner books and needs to move on. For the most advanced VI6 gurus... you're in virgin territory.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Another Sams faux pas
Review: Errors and errors and more errors.

There are two things guaranteed if you buy a Sams or Que book. The examples will not work. The authors just type them in, willy-nilly, the publishers take the examples on faith.

They cut and paste a proforma Thank You to all the 'hard working' folks who worked on the book.

You go out, buy the book, start reading, type in one example, BAAM ! BOOM ! Crash, and another crash.

I took the book back to the chain store where I bought and told the buyer to it pull it off the shelf.

To my surprise, knowing how little book stores care, all the Sams books dealing with VI were pulled off the shelf.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Covers almost everything, but not in any detail...
Review: If you're looking for a good intro to VI6, then this is it. The first 10 chapters are about nothing but getting used to the interface, and what various parts of the interface do. It even goes into a stint on ADO2.

The last few chapters are good, and it has an excellent appendix section (but with no detail).

I am disappointed...I expected more depth and detail out of a "UNLEASHED..." book. I give it 4 stars because it is an excellent beginners book...I don't give it 5 because it lacks depth / detail.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Best book yet on VID6
Review: Nothing earth shattering to say in this review. VID Unleashed is the best book I have read on VID6--hands down. Competent chapters on the scripting object model, the VID data environment, and the database and query designers. Several hundred pages of good reference material on the SOM, HTML, DHTML, ADO, etc. Good stuff.

My only complaint is that there is an obvious switch from one writer to another between chapters.

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Visual Interdev 6 "Untested"
Review: Ok, Id expect this book to be of quality material its from sams press, I started following some of the examples hand codinging them along with the tutorials, and upon running the applications, none of them worked, they all had errors. So i pushed in the CD and ran the same examples that they provided, same errors, sometimes different errors. OK, so maybe its just my computer, PWS. Lets run it on a NT computer, nope, same errors, and even another computer, same errors. OK? whats going on?

This book is more Uncool than it is Unleashed. to the authors of the book: next time make sure your demos acctually run...

please pardon my poor english... ack

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Visual InterDev 6 Unleashed
Review: Please avoid buying this book. None of the examples work. The buster didn't check the examples before editing the book. "YOU WILL WASTE YOUR MONEY"

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Start from Part II, then it's in excellent flow
Review: Read chapter 10 to 18 rather than from beginning, Then, this book is in very good flow - Even for beginner. If you do not have a SQL server to run the sample code, just create an Access DSN instead of.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Finally a book you can learn from.
Review: This book is a gold mine for anyone trying to use Visual InterDev. It covers all of the related technologies that most other books simply ignore. There are quality examples about DHTML, CSS, debugging, security, data access, JavaScript, VBScript, MTS, Index Server. There are chapters dedicated to building real life web sites with catalogs and e-commerce being the focus. It also contains a complete reference section for HTML, JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, T-SQL and the Scripting Object Model. This book is an InterDev Bible!

Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Too many writers
Review: this book obviously has been written by too many people and makes me confuse in transitions from chapter to chapter. I expected this book to give me automated power of Interdev. It, however, shows only a few hand-code examples. I mean, therer are many examples. However, examples are tend to too hand-code side.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: Good Start, but lots of errors
Review: This was a good book as an introduction to developing ASP with VI. I had come from a "code everything by hand" approach and VI unleashed has given me a great introduction to the visual developement capabilities of InterDev 6. However, the major drawbacks are Chapter 23 and 24. I learn best by doing and while the steps in creating the example online catalog helped me to learn how to use DTCs, etc in the end the examples did not work. Examples that don't work are very frustrating. I want to see the program I did in the examples work, not chase down bugs. Also adding to my frustration is that there are no online resources where fixes and updates to the text exist. All in all though, the book presented the material well and helped me get a good grasp of VI6.


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