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Summary: GoLive 4 Reference and How to...
Review: Adobe GoLive 4 is a great program. Real World GoLive 4 is the book that will tell you how to get the most out of GoLive. Real World GoLive 4 is a must for all who use GoLive 4 for web design. Although the GoLive 4 manual is the size of a telephone book, its use in applying the program to real world design situations is limited. Real World GoLive 4 presents procedural (i.e., how to) information in clear, concise, well written prose. Anyone designing websites with Adobe GoLive 4, from beginner to expert, should have a copy of Real World GoLive 4 in their library. Better yet, on their desk top.
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Summary: I believed the earlier reviews......
Review: After buying and struggling with Microsoft FrontPage on and offfor months, I finally gave up and (at a graphic designer's suggestion)bought GoLive and this book. With no web experience at all, using only the Real World GoLive 4 book, in one month I had a (now award winning) site built with hundreds of pages and thousands of images........GoLive is confusing and intimidating at first, but sitting down and reading this book made the logic, power and speed of this program easy. I recommend both highly. William Moree. moree@moreephoto.com. Boston, MA. END
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Summary: Responding to previous review (below)
Review: As the co-author of this title, I wanted to respond to the review below. The reviewer writes, "assumes the user understands and has used all the tools or has experience creating web sites." We agree! This anonymous person in D.C. dinged our book for this, but we hope that people won't expect this to be a step-by-step tutorial of the program. Instead, we delve deeply into all the basic, intermediate, and advanced features, assuming the reader has some knowledge of HTML (not extensive) and some knowledge of how the Web works (again, not extensive). This book is aimed at folks who use the program for production, and who are moving to it as a tool to help them do their job. The book that the reviewer below from D.C. needs is Molly Holzschlag and Stephen Romaniello's title "Mastering Adobe GoLive 4" (ISBN 0782126049) which is aimed at people with little or no knowledge of building Web sites with any program or using HTML. I hope the review below doesn't discourage anyone from buying our title who is looking for solid, production-oriented, detailed tips. The book has illustrations and screen captures on almost every page. (A few sections that are more about background issues, like FTP, are a little heavier on text. But our "basics" section has several illustrations per page. Our Advanced section on using Actions has step-by-step examples with illustrations, too.) You can see a sample chapter of the book at our Web site and at the publisher's Web site.
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Summary: RealWorld GoLive 4
Review: First off I would highly recommend this book for anyone who feels as I do that the Adobe GoLive manual is not as well written as it should be. Seems like the GoLive manual was rushed through the publication process (including a few typograhical errors). RealWorld GoLive 4 is a perfect companion to learning how the software works. It is an easy read for those learning how to assemble a web page (or web site). I would suggest using this book as your main guide for learning GoLive and fall back on Adobe's manual for secondary information. If there is a 'beef' I have with RealWorld, its that I feel it should have come with a CD-ROM containing various 'how to' & tutorials (i.e. tutorials on tables, forms, CCS, etc.). I have learned a great deal from similar CD-equipped tutorial books (i.e. Inside Photoshop by Bouton & Bouton). RealWorld is a perfect example of a book needing an accompanying CD-ROM for even an easier (and speedier) understanding of what is essentially the learning of a new language - the language of the web. Maybe the authors can include some "QuickTime" examples on their web site. Nevertheless, get this book! It will be money well spent.
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Summary: An in depth book
Review: I bought and read Real World Illustrator 8 by Deke McClelland and Really enjoyed reading it. But I must say that I do not enjoy reading this book. In the preface of the book the authors explain how they learned a lot while writing the book and I just wish that they would have already had a good grasp of the whole concept before they began. The book tells you everything that you could possibly want to know about the program but it does not join it all together in a way that is easy to understand. If in fact you were to study the book really hard I have no doubt that you would master the program as the authors have, but you will have spent a lot of time doing it. I wish the authors would have stuck with one subject at a time instead of jumping around so much.
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Summary: What a difference organization makes!
Review: I dove into GoLive last summer using the manual that originally shipped with v4.0. By the time I was 200 pages into it (out of 700!), I realized I wasn't learning much about using the software. The Adobe manual (which I understand was the original developer's work that Adobe "ported" and rushed into print to get a v4 out the door) is a recitation of software features with almost no application. NOW ENTERS "Real World GoLive". The page count is almost the same as the original v4 manual, but these guys understand there's such a thing as needing to get some work done. The coverage is cross-platform without being obnoxious about it. When bugs exist (through v4.01, still current as of the date of this review), they let you know that the bugs are there and how they'll affect your work. Finally, they cover the most arcane features, such as URL mapping, with aplomb and admissions of headache. I'm learning enough about this outstanding Web tool to teach it to others, and I recommend this book highly. As with other reviewers, I do think a book whose cost approaches $40 should include a CD-ROM with tutorial files. But this does not shave any stars from my evaluation.
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Summary: Waste of money to buy & time to read
Review: I purchased this book in order to learn how to create web pages using Adobe's GoLive. After a few hours, however, this book turned out to be the major obstacle in this enterprise. The book of Carlson et al is neither a text book nor a reference book. It is basically a blown-up manual where you only incidently will find and learn what you are looking for. The order and the arrangement of topics is confusing, some references are incorrect or simply do not exist, basic information has been left out. The reader is guided from one keystroke to another without knowing at that time what he is doing. You will not get the whole picture. You will not be told how page and site design and construuction works. However, at least once on a page you are reminded that the return key on a mac keybard is the enter key on a microsoft keyboard and that the control key on a microsoft keyboard is the command key on an apple keyboard But the worst is yet to come: obviously in order to make up for their incompetence in writing a book, the authos tried to be funny. Paragraphs such as 'Zat is not my dog' or phrases such as 'some browsers had a tendency to crash if you even mentioned the word "frames" within earshot of the computer' would have warned me if I had have the chance to review this book before purchasing it. Several times you will be reading how 'pretty cool' the point and shoot method is. But which file of two is the reference and which file is citing the reference after you pretty cool pointed and shooted is something you have to find out yourself. And that will give you the chance to find out by yourself how to remove unwanted references. At least half of the text is garbadge of that kind, stuff everyone knows or sruff nobody wants to know. Even if a certain informtion is part of the text the average reader won't find it. The avarage reader does not have the time and patience to read all that complacent, childish, sometimes embarresing amateur poetry of regard their playing with computers as being the 'real world' (the title of the book). Carlson and his friends should have written another book. I am not sure which one. Probably a book about the wonderful world of computer toys with all its pretty cool programs and funny features where there is, however, 'never enough coffee' but definetly enough fun all day long.
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Summary: This Book Accelerates The Learning Curve For 'GoLive'
Review: If you're serious about learning GoLive and you're on a time crunch, this book is one of the tools that made it happen for me. GoLive is a deep program with extended capabilities, like PhotoShop which is another Adobe product. This book is formatted for an easy [not easiest, I said 'easy'] read while you're learning and quick reference when you get stuck [and you will!]. While `GoLive Classroom in a Book' from Adobe will get you started with the program's basics, this book is the next step to get you moving and productive on the MAC or PC platform. I found it to be worth the investment of money and time.
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Summary: JUST OK
Review: It's a thousand-fold improvement on both the GoLive manual and online help. But it has many lapses of its own. Although the authors have tried to clarify some of GoLive's user-unfriendly procedures, in some cases they muddle things up more. They even had to clarify some of their own explanations on their Web site. Speaking of which: the Web site promises much but delivers little. And forget about ongoing support: the site now supports only their latest book, REAL WORLD ADOBE GOLIVE 5. My advice is to buy whichever book covers your version of GoLive, but expect to cross-reference everything with GoLive's own online help files....
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Summary: Bravo Jeff & Glenn
Review: This book has quickly become indispensible. I've been building sites with GoLive for several years, and like every really deep program (Photoshop for example) GoLive is full of hidden features, mysteries, and more than the occasional frustration. Real World GoLive 4.0 has answered questions that have plagued me from day one. It is an easy to use reference work, not simply thorough but clear.These guys write well about a difficult subject. Their humor helps, but their well distilled and well organized knowledge helps even more. Bravo!
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