Rating:  Summary: People -- your'e missing the point!! Review: The book is well written and easy to understand using the human mindset. I gave it a "3" because of the author's attempt to compare both arguments, however, after reading ALL the reviews on this book I have come to one conclusion. Human knowledge, human logic and human emotion cannot begin to explain or encompass what God is. The fact is, as stated in Revelation, Jesus is the alpha and omega (beginning and end). The gospels document that "the Word became man". Whether you want to believe that the Trinity is or is not -- the fact still remains that the only way to the Father is through Jesus Christ. Everyone can argue until blue in the face; but the one common belief that should unite us is our belief that Jesus Christ was born, lived, died and was resurrected for our salvation. Humans have finite minds with limited capabilities -- don't expect to encompass and understand the infinite. God does not intend for us to know everything.My concern is that this book is creating division between believers. Division and second-guessing is the work of only one being - Satan. None other but he will prosper from this. Please keep in mind what is really important -- Salvation.
Rating:  Summary: point by point debate in a book Review: The book is written in such a format it is more like a reference book then anything. The author goes by each scripture concerning the trinity and adds a small amount of commentary. The author writes in an easy flowing style, thus while the book is formatted like a referrence book it can be read mostly straight through (though some parts will get repetitive) The commentary in the book is simple and easy to follow, however for those wanting more then just the basic answers they will have to look else where. This is though one of the best books I have read on the trinity. and the fact he includes commentary on nearly any concievable scripture used for or against the trinity goes a long way. Also the fact he keeps it simple helps bring out the truth of the matter so much more easily. Great book for any Jehovah Witness, or anyone studying the trinity.
Rating:  Summary: very detailed and logical Review: The book was presented in a very logical fashion appealing to the reasoning mind, well worth the money to anyone interested in christology from a beginner to a average student, Wonderfull job, and my thanks to the author. = )
Rating:  Summary: Heads up. Review: The official Amazon review does not mention that the author is a Jehovah's Witness. In light of the material being covered that is a significant omission from the review. Additionally, the author is trained as an engineer and has no advanced degrees in theology, philosophy or seminary.
Rating:  Summary: A unique book with a unique approach Review: The strength of this book is not so much the answers to Trinitarian proof texts. Most Trinitarian scriptures have been discussed in other non-Trinitarian works though the author does consider a few that I had never heard of before. I will say that even though a number of these Trinitarian texts have been answered numerous times over, the author does a more thorough job at showing scriptures to back his point. Consider as one example Matthew 3:3's quoting of Isaiah 40:3 which reads, "Listen! Someone is crying out in the wilderness, 'Prepare the way of Jehovah, you people! Make his road straight." This verse is speaking about John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus and Trinitarians note that Isaiah 40:3 says he would be preparing the way for Jehovah. Their conclusion is that Jesus must be Jehovah. I've read in several non-Trinitarian books the explanation that since Jesus was Jehovah's representative, preparing the way for Jesus is considered the same as preparing the way for Jehovah. End of discussion. Mr. Holt, though, gives a far more thorough reply that lends credence to the argument. He not only states the same argument but also backs it up with scriptural examples. First he notes that a similar situation occurs at Matthew 25:35-40 where Jesus says Christians fed him, watered him and clothed him. These Christians ask 'When did we do these things to you?' Holt quotes Jesus' reply of "to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me." Here we see Jesus said Christians did these things to HIM yet in reality they did it to his followers. Holt rightly notes that no one concludes from Matthew 25 these followers ARE Jesus so why think Jesus is Jehovah because of a similar account? As he states, Trinitarians use a double standard in interpreting these two accounts. The author further shows that preparing the people to receive Jesus is the same as preparing them to receive Jehovah without meaning Jesus is Jehovah. He does this by noting Jesus' words at Matthew 10:40, "He that receives you receives me also, and he that receives me receives him also that sent me forth." But the author is not done yet; he finally shows that Isaiah 40:3 does not mean Jesus is Jehovah by noting Jesus' own quote of Isaiah 40:3, "Look! I myself [Jehovah] am sending forth my messenger [John] before your [Jesus] face, who will prepare your way ahead of you." (Matthew 11:10) Here Jesus quotes the same prophecy but clearly says Jehovah would send John ahead to prepare the way for Jesus, not Himself! So Jesus' own quote of the scripture in question shows he did not think he was Jehovah. This is just one example of dozens of Trinitarian scriptures answered in this book. The author, unlike many other non-Trinitarian books, doesn't just provide an answer; he provides scriptures to back it up. The evidence presented on this one verse alone is powerful enough that even the staunchest of Trinitarians will have to admit the bias in arguing Isaiah 40:3 and Matthew 3:3 mean Jesus is Jehovah. A double standard must be held to stick to a Trinitarian interpretation. The other 50 plus Trinitarian scriptures are answered in the same manner. This is not to say other non-Trinitarian works do not present a well-thought out argument; it only highlights that Holt keeps his opinions to a minimum and tends to offer more scriptural support to his arguments. However, as I said above, the strength of this book is not the powerful arguments against Trinitarian scriptures. The best part of this book are the hundreds of scriptures covered in the second half, which suggest Jesus is not God. The author basically says 'Here are hundreds of verses specifically showing Jesus is someone other than God. You need to convince us these common people with little to no education heard Jesus say he was sent by God and yet still believed he was God.' This is a format that raises this work above other non-Trinitarian works. While they are mostly consumed with answering Trinitarian scriptures, (and they often do a decent job at that), the author focuses more on getting Trinitarians to deal with the hundreds of non-Trinitarian scriptures. This book is a gem and the arguments against Trinitarian verses are the most powerful I've seen. And the scriptures showing Jesus is not God are even more powerful. Great buy!
Rating:  Summary: JW methods clearly showcased! Review: This book appears to be a fair study of what the scriptures have to say about Jesus's deity, but is it? It is published by TellWay publications, an arm of the Watchtower Organization (check out TellWay's Web site!) which has nearly 100 years of experience keeping its doctrinal bias out of its books! This book accurately shows how well they do that. That is, I highly recommend this book for all who want to become more familar with the teachings of the Jehovah Witnesses, but not for those who want to become familiar with the important themes of the New Testament.
Rating:  Summary: About as fair of a book as you can get on the subject Review: This book is a gem. As many of the positive comments below show, the arguments in this book against Jesus being God are quite powerful. And as can be seen by many of the negative reviews (apparently by Trinitarians), more than a few feathers have been ruffled. However, I invite you to read all of the reviews, especially the Trinitarian reviews. Note how they misstate Holt's book and arguments. Thankfully other reviewers have caught their straw men arguments and, in some cases, flat out lies against the author and this book. And I really appreciate Mr. Marsh's comment regarding his correspondence with the author. I think Mr. Holt did an excellent job in answering Daniel Marsh. This book answers OVER 50 different verses Trinitarians use and then discusses hundreds of verses against it. Mr. Marsh, when you answer the nearly 400 verses outlined in Holt's book, I'm sure he will be glad to answer your question. Yes Mr. Holt, you have certainly "served" many verses to Trinitarians. From what I've seen of their reviews and their attempt to discredit your book, apparently they don't know how to handle them! Thank you so much for at least being honest enough to give us both sides of the story. And by the way; isn't funny how persons who write books against the Trinity are biased but people who write for the Trinity are not? I've read many books on this subject, most from Trinitarians. This is the most unbiased book on the market. Of course the author has a preference but are you telling me Trinitarian authors do not? At least Holt mentions many of the Trinitarian arguments. What Trinitarian book mentions the 400 verses Holt discusses? After reading this book, I know why Trinitarian authors stay away from these hundreds of verses. "Jesus-God or the Son of God?" will be around for years and, for now, is the standard by which Trinitarian authors will need to compare their works. Trinitarians are ill-equipped for this new work on the subject. They better get a copy and brush up on the powerful arguments headed their way.
Rating:  Summary: Flippant treatment of a complex subject Review: This book takes a very literal interpretation of scriptures, then lists all of the ones for and all the ones against and tallies them like a sporting event. The discussion on most scriptures is very brief, followed by a flippant comment. I had expected a thorough, in depth discussion of a complex doctrine, but unfortunately, this is not the book for that. The discussions on problems with translation are very interesting, but most other discussions were too brief, and even condescending. This book didn't convince me one way or the other, it just left me feeling like there was more to the story-- if it is as simple as the author presents it, that means millions of people are ignorant fools.
Rating:  Summary: One of a kind analysis of the scriptures! Review: This is a unique book. Why has no one thought of this format earlier? Up till now, books on the Trinity have been of two classes. Either they only mention the scriptures in support of their belief or, if you're lucky, they might mention a few of the counter-arguments from opposing views. I've been frustrated with both Trinitarian and non-Trinitarian books for their half-hearted presentations. But all that has changed with the introduction of "Jesus-God or the Son of God?" The author literally does 'compare the arguments', covering many if not most of the popular Trinitarian scriptures. The majority of the non-Trinitarian explanations for these are outstanding and quite plausible. However, even as a non-Trinitarian, I could not help but be sympathetic to Trinitarians with some of these verses because, even though the non-Trinitarian explanation is possible or even probable, the Trinitarian view seems equally justified. After reading the first four chapters of Holt's book, I was impressed with the explanations but also questioned why non-Trinitarians are so bent against Trinitarian interpretations on some of these pro-Trinity scriptures? After all, if I just read these scriptures without the non-Trinitarian explanations to them; would I not also believe Jesus was God? I found my answer when I read on. Holt, beginning from Matthew and going straight through the New Testament, compiles nearly every scripture that speaks of Jesus as being someone different from God, less than God, sent by God, etceteras and etceteras. He quotes scores of scriptures (literally) that have Jesus' own followers speak of him as someone other than the Almighty. Holt reminds us that these people did not already believe that the 'Father was God, the Son was God and the Holy Spirit was God and yet they are not three Gods, they are One God.' While Trinitarians resort to the definition of the Trinity to explain away the hundreds of verses that seem to show Jesus is not God, what did the disciples use to explain these sayings away? Wouldn't they have understood Jesus to be someone other than God if they didn't already believe in a Triune God? Such questions are dangerous to Trinitarians and often ignored. Holt also shows chronologically that the disciples did not believe Jesus was God (I.E., they wondered how he could do something that supposedly only God could do) even after certain events happened that Trinitarians say supposedly made them believe he was God. So either Trinitarians are wrong in whether a certain event made the disciples think Jesus was God or the disciples kept changing their minds! I've read the book twice as it's much to take in and it offers a great deal of food for thought for both sides. I believe non-Trinitarians would believe in the Trinity if the Bible only mentioned the verses that pro-Trinitarians use. True, you could still equally argue for the non-Trinitarian interpretation of them but you would really have no reason to do such. After all, if the Bible says "the Word was God", what's to argue about? Nothing!...Until you read the four hundred verses that say just as powerfully that Jesus was not God! You would think it was clear Jesus was being called Almighty God until you read verses that call other people "God" or until you read where Jesus argues that the scriptures also refer to men as gods. Now we have an issue. Not only do we have more than quadruple the scriptures against the Trinity as are for it but now we see that the Bible refers to angels and human kings like Solomon as gods in a positive sense. With all the verses saying Jesus is not God, we must now question what the verse means when it refers to Jesus as god. Your average Trinitarian, being presented only one side of the argument, looks at the verses supposedly calling Jesus God and wonders how non-Trinitarians could not believe such. Well let me assure you; if it weren't for the hundreds and hundreds of scriptures that show Jesus is not God, we would believe the fifty or so scriptures they think say Jesus is God. We didn't start off looking for an alternative understanding to pro-Trinity scriptures. We did that only after seeing the much more overwhelming evidence that Jesus is God's Son. If Trinitarians want to know why their line of evidence doesn't impress non-Trinitarians, READ THIS BOOK. I guarantee 99% of Trinitarians have not seen such a powerful argument against the Trinity. Throw away the circular reasoning and a preconceived belief in a Trinity and ask yourself what these hundreds of sayings by Jesus and others meant to people in the first century. You might be startled by your conclusion!
Rating:  Summary: Very accurate brief for the Watchtower Organization's views! Review: This is published by TellWay Publications, which is apparently an arm of the Watchtower Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses), a cultic group not exactly famous for keeping their doctrinal bias out of their books. This book appears to be TellWay's only publication so far. On their Website ...they have a link to the official Web site of the Watchtower Organization. More tellingly, on their "Useful Links" page they also have a link to a page of articles on "How Bias Affects Bible Translation." One of the articles reports the results of a study of the accuracy of various translations. Guess which version comes out on top? Suprise! The New World Translation turns out to be the most accurate. This is a translation published by the Watchtower and used only by Jehovah's Witnesses because it has no credibility with anybody else. It was done by a committee of Jehovah's Witnesses, not one of whom knew Biblical Greek or Hebrew. There was one man on it who spoke modern Greek (which is about as similar to ancient Biblical Greek as modern English is to Anglo-Saxon). This should give you a good idea about the standards of Biblical scholarship to expect in this work. Enjoy your reading!
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