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Macross Set 1 (Vols 1-3)

Macross Set 1 (Vols 1-3)

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Rating: 5 stars
Summary: How to find the Movie version
Review: I am not reviewing this product, but instead giving a relevant information for fans.

For those who are anxious to see the movie version (Macross: Do You Remember Love ?) in DVD you have two good place to buy.

1. Robert's Anime Corner Store (www.animecornerstore.com)
2. YesAsia (us.yesasia.com) : For this site, do a search with title "LOVE Do You Remember" or artist "Kawamori Masaharu" (yes, that's weird, but if you type Do You Remember Love, the result is a Chinese VCD version).

Bear in mind, as the legal dispute regarding this movie is not unsettled, the DVD of this movie are Region 2 (Japanese) DVD with NTSC TV Format. The very same legal dispute cause an official release of this movie in Region 1 DVD is unlikely in the near future. IMDB trivia even says this movie might never be released in US.

The edition is the Perfect Edition, with additional 5-6 minutes taken from FlashBack 2012. ORIGINAL IMPORT VERSION, JUST SAY NO TO BOOTLEG/PIRATES.

No English subtitle, only Japanese track. I suggested you to download the complete English movie script from www.pathea.com as your company.

By the way, even the original price in YEN is quite some money, Y7800, so don't be surprised with the price in US dollar.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: It's like a whole new series!
Review: I just bought this first set of the original Japanese Macross TV series. Overall, I'm very pleased with it, although I still think the price is a bit high. The video is pretty clear, it seems to have been touched up.

Some people have complained that the soundtrack is worse than that of Robotech because it sound a bit exaggerated or melodramatic. Well, I think since we did watch Robtech first, we are just used to the Robotech soundtrack. But I don't think the Macross soundtrack is worse, it's just different. I admit that Robotech does have a really good soundtrack, but almost every scene has some type of background music to it whether it was even fitting or not. In Macross many of the scenes don't have background music, which works as well.

Something that surprised me was that the voicetrack sometimes doesn't match the mouth movements. For a dubbed versiong like Robotech, I can completely understand. But in Macross, there is sometimes a one second lag.

As for the story and the cut scences, it's interesting and painful to see how many scenes were cut and how the story was essentially butchered. It's really refreshing to see the original uncut version. The story actually makes sense now, whereas in Robotech, a lot of things just didn't make sense because of the poor story editing. Another thing about waching the Macross series is that you don't have to put up with the really bad acting and sometimes cheesy dialogue of Robotech.

But alas, the only reason we are buying this DVD set is that we are diehard fans of Robotech. We grew up watching Robotech and that is the series we remember. We grew to love Rick Hunter and Lisa Hayse, not Ichijo Hikaru and Misa Hayase. We gew to love the Robotech storyline which included two other completely unrelated anime series. In the end we love Robotech despite all it's shortcomings.

I highly recommend Macross to all diehard Robotech fans out there. I think you'll find it refreshing and just like a completely new series.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Incredible!
Review: I must say I was leery at first to buy this series.
#1. Im a HUGE Robotech fan and was worried that it would change my outlook on the Robotech show.
#2. wouldn't be much of a difference.

well I was completely wrong, the price tag is a little bit on the high end but it is worth it let me tell you! If you LOVE Robotech like I do you should get this because its the original show uncut and in its original form. The show takes on a more "serious" tinge opposed to Robotech the silly dubbing is removed and the orginal Japanese is present with pretty well done subtitles! the subs take a bit of getting used to but dont really ruin the experience. I did notice the animation clean up..it is VERY crisp and vibrant as opposed to Robotech! now, most of the extra stuff is just tidbits of sides stuff, ie.. you see more of the hangar in one episode and men loading things in the docks etc... and in epidode 4 you see minmay's bare bum as she bathes with water that is gushing from a pipe that Hikaru(Rick to Robotech fans) struck and broke in order to have water to drink. There is also some expletives and more serious adult humor. This show is for the more serious fan of the series where Robotech was aimed at the kiddies. I was a kiddie when it aired back in 1985 and find that both series are worth owning. The box is nifty looking with three separate dvd cases inside. the liner notes are typical Animeigo which are tabs with some pretty good info! If you are an old Robotech fan or a new one to either Macross or Robotech this is a MUST have! don't forget to pick up Box #2 and #3 also!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: FORGET ROBOTECH!
Review: I was one of the original Robotech fans of the 80's. decades later, after buying the Robotehc 6 dvd set, I was so diappointed to now notice how choppy the storytelling was and a certain things just did NOT make any sense.

Enter MACROSS! now that North America has access to the remastered original series of Macross, I decided to snatch up the 3 box sets and DAMN! What a difference it makes!

Stories are complete! Dialogue is actually a lot more intellectual. Plot makes more sense! Robotech cut out a lot of smaller scenes that actually helped the viewer better understand various situations. Some of the cut scenes are pretty funny as well. comabt scnes are much more intense and enjoyable. Robotech cut out a lot of the violence and gave us a little too many still-images during battle scnenes, for my tastes.

I urge all Robotech fans out there to pick up these dvd's and see the REAL THING from beginning to end! You wont regret it!
It's a totally new experience!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Finally, a chance to see what I've been missing!
Review: Like most American folks (and more'n a few non-American folks to be sure) who grew up watching 80s-era 'toonage, my first look at the Macross series was in the form of the first chapter of Robotech. And even though I still hold a certain degree of sentimental nostalgia for the latter show, I gotta admit I like the original uncut Japanese version a fair bit more. Well, except for the background score-- the music used for Robotech seemed a better fit in my opinion, and wasn't quite as melodramatic as the original score. I'm sorry if this revelation offends you anime purists out there, but-- no wait, actually I'm not the least bit sorry. I could give less than two doots what'cha all think. Bite me!

Naturally, the biggest attraction of the original Macross show is the chance to see all the stuff that Harmony Gold (the show's North American producers) changed and edited out of the series to conform to the various kidvid standards of the day. Stuff like excess violence, naughty bits, slightly coarse language, a few mature situations here & there, and stuff that might not have translated well to audiences on the opposite side of the Pacific and elsewhere. I saw a smattering of such moments and scenes (Minmay's bare tush and a few lascivious leers by Roy Focker for example), but they made up a rather miniscule part of the "restored" bits. The vast majority of no-longer-missing moments were rather innocuous (mostly incidental or "slice-of-life"-type scenes), and led me to wonder why they'd been shortened or removed from Robotech in the first place. Probably to help the networks airing the series cram in another toy commercial or two between the mid-show eyecatches...

I was also curious to see the results of AnimEigo's extensive restoration efforts that I'd been reading about so much on Robotech.com and other anime news sites for months before its DVD debut. Although I still saw a few ever-so-slight flaws here 'n' there, I thought they did a really good job making the show as clean and pristine as it likely was when it first hit the broadcast airwaves over twenty years ago. Just compare any of the restored eppies to their Robotech counterparts, and you'll see a fairly significant difference between the two in terms of picture clarity!

Although the platters in this set lack any real special bonus features aside from show production and restoration credits, the liner notes-- which resemble mini file folders complete with subject tabs-- come close to making up for it:

- Disc one's mini-file discusses the production evolution of the show's first twelve episodes, as well as the various in-gags one can find in each show, if he looks hard enough.

- Disc two's little dossier is the lyric sheet to the Macross theme song, and five of Lynn Minmay's tunes. Both the English translation and the anglicized Japanese pronunciation of each song's lyrics are given.

- The third platter includes brief character profiles of Ichijo Hikaru ("Rick Hunter" to all you Robotech freakos out there), Lynn Minmay, Milia Fallyna Jenius (Miriya), Hayase Misa (Lisa Hayes), Maximillian Jenius (Max Sterling) and Roy Focker (hee hee, that name's almost naughty). The basic info given for each character includes age, height and weight (in metric measurements, natch), occupation, bust-waist-hips measurements for the ladies, the episode each debuted in, the person who voiced the character, and... blood type? Hey, that's kinda personal don'cha think? Seriously though, I've never understood the deal with anime characters having blood types (shouldn't it be ink types? Heh, get it? Hee hee...). But then, I never really delved into the technical world of anime-- or the culture it reflects-- all that much. And why the heck does almost every Japanese anime character I've ever seen not look even remotely Japanese? What's up with all the honky-envy in animeland??? If you can explain these bits o' strangeness to me, drop me an e-mail, willya? Thanks...

The only real disappointment I have with this collection is that they weren't able to put Macross and Robotech together into an all-in-one presentation, like Harmony Gold did a few years back when they put out the Robotech: Perfect Collection VHS series, featuring two Robotech eppies and their corresponding Japanese (Macross, Southern Cross, Mospeada) counterparts. It would've been nice to have something that appealed to both the 'Techie and the anime purist in me, without havin' to take up quite as much shelf space in my video cabinet. No such luck, I'm afear'd; the licensing & rights situations just didn't pan out between the companies involved in the show's production & distribution. Them's the breaks in life...

'Late

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Finally, a chance to see what I've been missing!
Review: Like most American folks (and more'n a few non-American folks to be sure) who grew up watching 80s-era `toonage, my first look at the Macross series was in the form of the first chapter of Robotech. And even though I still hold a certain degree of sentimental nostalgia for the latter show, I gotta admit I like the original uncut Japanese version a fair bit more. Well, except for the background score-- the music used for Robotech seemed a better fit in my opinion, and wasn't quite as melodramatic as the original score. I'm sorry if this revelation offends you anime purists out there, but-- no wait, actually I'm not the least bit sorry. I could give less than two doots what'cha all think. Bite me!

Naturally, the biggest attraction of the original Macross show is the chance to see all the stuff that Harmony Gold (the show's North American producers) changed and edited out of the series to conform to the various kidvid standards of the day. Stuff like excess violence, naughty bits, slightly coarse language, a few mature situations here & there, and stuff that might not have translated well to audiences on the opposite side of the Pacific and elsewhere. I saw a smattering of such moments and scenes (Minmay's bare tush and a few lascivious leers by Roy Focker for example), but they made up a rather miniscule part of the "restored" bits. The vast majority of no-longer-missing moments were rather innocuous (mostly incidental or "slice-of-life"-type scenes), and led me to wonder why they'd been shortened or removed from Robotech in the first place. Probably to help the networks airing the series cram in another toy commercial or two between the mid-show eyecatches...

I was also curious to see the results of AnimEigo's extensive restoration efforts that I'd been reading about so much on Robotech.com and other anime news sites for months before its DVD debut. Although I still saw a few ever-so-slight flaws here `n' there, I thought they did a really good job making the show as clean and pristine as it likely was when it first hit the broadcast airwaves over twenty years ago. Just compare any of the restored eppies to their Robotech counterparts, and you'll see a fairly significant difference between the two in terms of picture clarity!

Although the platters in this set lack any real special bonus features aside from show production and restoration credits, the liner notes-- which resemble mini file folders complete with subject tabs-- come close to making up for it:

- Disc one's mini-file discusses the production evolution of the show's first twelve episodes, as well as the various in-gags one can find in each show, if he looks hard enough.

- Disc two's little dossier is the lyric sheet to the Macross theme song, and five of Lynn Minmay's tunes. Both the English translation and the anglicized Japanese pronunciation of each song's lyrics are given.

- The third platter includes brief character profiles of Ichijo Hikaru ("Rick Hunter" to all you Robotech freakos out there), Lynn Minmay, Milia Fallyna Jenius (Miriya), Hayase Misa (Lisa Hayes), Maximillian Jenius (Max Sterling) and Roy Focker (hee hee, that name's almost naughty). The basic info given for each character includes age, height and weight (in metric measurements, natch), occupation, bust-waist-hips measurements for the ladies, the episode each debuted in, the person who voiced the character, and... blood type? Hey, that's kinda personal don'cha think? Seriously though, I've never understood the deal with anime characters having blood types (shouldn't it be ink types? Heh, get it? Hee hee...). But then, I never really delved into the technical world of anime-- or the culture it reflects-- all that much. And why the heck does almost every Japanese anime character I've ever seen not look even remotely Japanese? What's up with all the honky-envy in animeland??? If you can explain these bits o' strangeness to me, drop me an e-mail, willya? Thanks...

The only real disappointment I have with this collection is that they weren't able to put Macross and Robotech together into an all-in-one presentation, like Harmony Gold did a few years back when they put out the Robotech: Perfect Collection VHS series, featuring two Robotech eppies and their corresponding Japanese (Macross, Southern Cross, Mospeada) counterparts. It would've been nice to have something that appealed to both the `Techie and the anime purist in me, without havin' to take up quite as much shelf space in my video cabinet. No such luck, I'm afear'd; the licensing & rights situations just didn't pan out between the companies involved in the show's production & distribution. Them's the breaks in life...

`Late

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Definitely worth it
Review: The crispness of the visuals is beyond anything I could imagine. I never realized how deteriorated the Robotech visuals were until I saw this DVD. Remember the scene in the second episode where a Gerwalk flies into rubble, the pod can't see him, and suddenly the Battroid appears and blasts the pod? Well in Robotech I couldn't distinguish where the suit was. IN this version it was so crisp I finally figured out where the Battroid was. The subtitles are great. I like the original Macross story better then the Robotech edit. Since Harmony Gold funded this you know that this will definitely be repackaged and dubbed for their upcoming Robotech Remastered Series. I will admit that I actually prefer some of the Robotech music and its placement compared to the Macross soundtrack. There were a lot of places that didn't have background music in Macross that did in Robotech. I think the music added more to the scenes. Some of the Macross soundtrack sounded cheesey to me. Another amazing fact is that I really loved the talking voice of Minmay in the original Macross unlike the whiny annoying bimbo voice Minmay has in Robotech. Her voice is actually nice to listen to. It almost has a sultry quality, but not slutty sounding.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Definitely worth it
Review: The crispness of the visuals is beyond anything I could imagine. I never realized how deteriorated the Robotech visuals were until I saw this DVD. Remember the scene in the second episode where a Gerwalk flies into rubble, the pod can't see him, and suddenly the Battroid appears and blasts the pod? Well in Robotech I couldn't distinguish where the suit was. IN this version it was so crisp I finally figured out where the Battroid was. The subtitles are great. I like the original Macross story better then the Robotech edit. Since Harmony Gold funded this you know that this will definitely be repackaged and dubbed for their upcoming Robotech Remastered Series. I will admit that I actually prefer some of the Robotech music and its placement compared to the Macross soundtrack. There were a lot of places that didn't have background music in Macross that did in Robotech. I think the music added more to the scenes. Some of the Macross soundtrack sounded cheesey to me. Another amazing fact is that I really loved the talking voice of Minmay in the original Macross unlike the whiny annoying bimbo voice Minmay has in Robotech. Her voice is actually nice to listen to. It almost has a sultry quality, but not slutty sounding.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Proto-Culture Revealed
Review: Well I'm sure there's a lot of non-Macross people out there. I own both series. I will say this, if you ever wondered about the story plot. The key is in the proto-culture. What is it?? What does it mean? Robotech fails to explain it or even make it relevant to the story. Macross will do that for you. It'll take you deeper into the story of Macross, Zentradi, and Proto-Culture.

Proto-Culture is truly an explanation to creators of the human race. Most people may not see a relationship here, but Macross really does give you a sci-fi look at how life came about on earth. The SDF-1 is truly a lost ship which belonged to the creators of human life. In it also lies secrets that the Zentradi desire. What the TV series doesn't cover is the Meltrandi who are enemies to the Zentradi. Both women and men at war for centuries trying to find an edge to win the war. The discovery of the SDF-1 or Alus (in Macross II) really holds keys.

Proto-Culture is the human race. By design the creators left in-nate messages having the Zentradi preserve Proto-Culture. The idea of kissing, love, and nurture are not known and exposed by Lynn Minmei. Britai, Zentran leader listens to his innate messages and decides to learn from Macross, and test it from time to time. But later Minmei's love and songs which have already lifted the spirit of the people of Macross, starts to influence the Zentradi's. Later, it is known that the Zentradi, Meltrandi, and Humans have the same blood types, DNA, and structure. The creators started life on Earth to bring back a peaceful world, relying on Harmony (no pun intended).

This story really is an attempt to realize life outside earth and possibly that an alien race landed on earth and settled to plant the Human race. If known, I'm sure the religious right would ban this series, but it is Sci-fi and so goes the ever battle between science and religion.

The continuity of Macross is great. This series really explains a better detail about proto-culture, the zentrans, the human race, and simply love songs that influence spirits to come together.

Highly recommend it to sci-fi romance viewers. Macross is a remarkable feat. AnimEigo should be credited for bringing this to DVD when others were unwilling. This series, like Space Cruiser Yamato, Star Trek, and Star Wars will take you into an adventure to be passed on through the generations.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM...
Review: With a stroke of success in the 80's, the Robotech: Macross series still has a place for many fans today and shares a strong cult following. Being a fan of the series as a kid, I decided to buy the whole Robotech: Macross series, but I came across the overwelming amount of editions to the series. I didn't know which to buy, so I watched them all. Here are the differences between to different boxsets (all offered through Amazon):

Robotech: the Complete Macross Series
One Boxset: 6 disc

Sells for around $60-$65
Nothing special, picture quality is not great, but bearable. Comes in one compact boxset with all the disc in it. Would not reccomend getting this edition unless you just want a copy of the series and want to spend the least possible amount of money.

Robotech: The Legacy Collection: Macross Saga (Collections 1-3)
Three Boxsets: with 3 disc in each
Sells for around $40 each boxset, entire set around $120-$130
Same picture quality as the above set, but with addtional features. Comes with the most extras out of any current sets, but even then, they are so-so. I would actually recommend getting the above edition as I was not impressed with the extras, some were interesting, but it definately didn't justify the price. Your paying almost twice the price.

Robotech Remastered: The Macross Saga (Volumes 1-3)
Three Boxsets: Two disc each boxset
Sells for around $25 each boxset, entire set around $75-$80
Remastered picture quality superior to both sets above, sound quality much improved. This is the set that I would recommend. The price is affordable and well worth the extra money compared to the first set. Also includes a few bonus footage.

Macross: Super Dimensional Fortress (Sets 1-3)
Three Boxsets: Three discs each boxset
Sells for around $60-$70 each boxset, entire series around $180-200
Macross is the original Japanese series of the Robotech: Macross Saga. The storyline is slightly different with different music and sounds. When it was brought to the US, Harmony Gold added the Macross material with two other Japanese series to make Robotech. Macross is more "mature" and includes several scenes taken out of Robotech. Picture quality is even more crisp than the Remastered Series. I would reccomend only to die-hard Robotech fans. It's pretty expensive and lacks really any real extra features.


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