Rating: Summary: THE PRODUCER OF THIS FILM WAS ASSASINATED AFTER THE RELEASE Review: I really advice every1 in this world to watch it and see for yourself why THE PRODUCER OF THIS FILM WAS ASSASINATED BY THE ISRAELI ARMY RIGHT AFTER ITS RELEASE!
Rating: Summary: Propaganda Goebbles would be proud of. Review: I was in Europe and Israel around the time of the daily multiple suicide bombers, blowing up civilians in busses and restaurants, shooting people on the streets, with Arab civilians dancing in the streets afterwards -- passing out sweets to kids and calling the dead murderers "martyrs" -- and I asked my Jewish friends aloud "when will Sharon do something to stop this madness". I could not imagine the US, for example, sitting by while Canadian terrorists did such a thing. Finally, action was taken. The IDF was sent out, and Jenin was one of the major targets as that's where the bomb-making factories were located. And the whole world, which previously had only been yawning with boredom at the sight of Jews being blown up and mutillated, suddenly went berzerk with indignant "outrage" against the Israelis. European newspapers shouted "MASSACRE IN JENIN" as PA spokespersons unashamedly claimed "thousands of civilians are being massacred" and called upon the world to come and save them. Nothing of the sort was happening, however, but this did not stop Amnesty International, Human Right's Watch and various UN representatives from repeating the Palestinian claims without examination. All the Palestinian claims were reported internationally as if they were "fact", while all the Israeli denials were reported as "claims". "BLOODBATH" was one headline, in bold red letters, from The Guardian, as I recall, and the UN then sent a well-known antisemite to Israel to "investigate". Understandably, the Israelis refused that man entry, and also refused to allow BBC and other Left-wing "human rights" groups in, given their happy willingness to repeat the PA claims without reservation. The film "Jenin, Jenin" basically repeats this story, up to this point. What it does not say, however, is what happend next. Finally an acceptable UN investigation team arrived, and so did other international human rights groups, finally to determine that something under 60 person had died in a hard military clash in the heart of Jenin, including 13 Israeli soldiers, that the IDF had used loudspeakers to warn people away, that only some buildings in the center of the heavily-fortified Jenin center were bulldozed, and there was NO MASSACRE. It was discovered that the Palestinians had dug up old graves, and planted corpses into the rubble, to inflate the death figures, and with my own eyes I saw one funny episode on Israeli television, where a coffin was dropped during a loud and angry Arab funeral outside Jenin, but the "dead man" inside the coffin quickly scrambled back inside. This was caught on video. And so forth. Even the PA was finally forced to accept this -- but this film will not give the facts. It is pure Arab-Islamist propaganda, in the same category as those who claim 9-11 was the product of a CIA/Mossad conspiracy. Save your money.
Rating: Summary: An Eyewitness Account - SEVEN LIES ABOUT JENIN Review: I watched Muhammad Bakri's film Jenin, Jenin in a limited forum, with
Jerusalem Cinematheque Director Leah Van Leer and several journalists.
After the private screening, I responded and indicated each lie and lack of
credibility. One of those present at the screening was outraged: "If you
don't accept the facts in the film, you apparently don't understand
anything; how can you be a doctor?"
For a moment, I forgot that I had been in Jenin last April, serving as a
regional brigade doctor, while this viewer had, at best, been fed on rumors.
Bakri expertly weaves together lies and half-truths until it becomes very
difficult not to be seduced by the distorted picture he creates.
I did not succeed in convincing the Cinematheque management to cancel the
screening. I was told that the pictures of destroyed homes were authentic
and that there was, therefore, truth in the film, and that the film would be
shown around the world in any case. Even so, I was invited to its premiere
screening in Jerusalem and I arrived in order to explain my position to the
audience. Following are several points that I wished to raise to the
audience:
1. Dr. Abu Riali, director of the hospital in Jenin, claims in the film that
the western wing of the hospital was shelled and destroyed and that the IDF
knowingly hit the hospital's water and power supplies. There never was any
such wing and in any case, no part of the hospital was either shelled or
blown up. IDF soldiers took care not to enter its grounds even though we
knew that it was serving as a refuge for several wanted fugitives. We
guarded the water, electricity and oxygen supplies to the hospital all
throughout the fighting and assisted in setting up an emergency generator
after the city's electrical system was damaged. Bakri himself is seen in
the film wandering the hospital's clean and well-kept corridors, but not in
the blown up wing. I met him outside the theater and asked him if he had
visited the western wing. At first he said no, then he corrected himself
and said, "You remember one moment in the film with shattered glass - it was
from there." It is important to point out that this Abu Riali is one of the
"authorized sources" for the claim of a "massacre." At the beginning of the
operation, he was interviewed on Al-Jazeera television and spoke of,
"thousands of victims."
2. Another impressive part of the film is the interview with a male
75-year-old Jenin resident who mumbles and cries and tells how he was taken
out of his bed in the middle of the night, shot in the hand, and after he
failed to obey the soldiers' command to get up, was shot again in the foot.
I met this very same old man as he was brought to me after an operation to
clear one of the Hamas cells' houses in the refugee camp. He had indeed
been lightly injured in the hand and was suffering from a minor scratch on
the foot, but certainly not as the result of a bullet. IDF soldiers
transferred him to a secure station that had been set up to treat wounded
and there he was treated by me, among others. One of the military doctors
identified diagnosed a heart problem. We suggested that he be transferred
immediately to Haemek Hospital in Afula for treatment. He asked to be
treated at the hospital in Jenin since he did not speak Hebrew. After the
hospital refused to admit him, we transferred him to Afula and he stayed
there for three days in the internal medicine department for treatment of
his heart problems and the anemia that he suffered from as a result of
another chronic illness.
3. Another person who was interviewed spoke about a baby who suffered a
chest wound from a bullet that entered through his chest and exited his
body, creating a hole in his back. According to the film the baby died
after IDF soldiers prevented his evacuation to hospital. A baby's body with
this type of injury has never been found. Moreover, such an injury would
have been fatal, and evacuation would not have saved his life. What is this
baby's name? Where did his body disappear to?
4. The same person interviewed also told how, using his finger, he opened
the baby's airway in his neck after he was injured.
Again, a complete lie. Such an action cannot be carried out with a finger.
This "witness" adds that tanks ran over living people many times until they
were completely crushed - this never happened and is imaginary.
5. The film mentions a mass gravesite that IDF soldiers dug for Palestinian
dead. Every international organization that investigated the matter concur
that there were 52 Palestinian dead in Jenin, and that all the bodies were
returned to the Palestinians for burial. Bakri does not bother to show the
supposed location of this mass gravesite.
6. Israeli planes that supposedly bombed the city are mentioned in the film.
There were no such planes. In order to prevent civilian casualties, only
focused helicopter fire was used.
7. It is interesting to note that Bakri was not present in Jenin at the time
of the operation, and only arrived two weeks after it was completed. In
pictures shot at the site in the center of Jenin, the damage appears much
larger than it was in actual fact, and the martyrs' pictures and jihad
slogans - which had been present at the time of the IDF military operation -
had disappeared from the walls of houses. The film systematically and
repeatedly uses manipulative pictures of tanks taken in other locations,
artificially placing them next to pictures of Palestinian children.
In general, this is a vulgar, but extremely well done, work of manipulation.
At the conclusion of the film, hundreds of viewers gave Bakri and the film's
editor a standing ovation. Bakri asked the audience if there were any
questions. I presented myself, I went up to the stage and began to
systematically list the lies and inaccuracies in the film.
At first there were whispers in the audience, and later scornful calls, and
I was labeled a "murderer," "war criminal" etc. I had barely succeeded in
finishing my second point when a man in the audience aggressively came up on
stage and tried to take the microphone out of my hand. I decided not to be
dragged into violence. I allowed him to take the microphone and left the
stage. I was surprised that only a few people stood up for my right to free
speech and free expression. I was shocked that the audience was unwilling
to hear the facts from someone who had physically been there.
It was difficult for me as a person, as a father and a doctor to hear calls
of "murderer" from my people. I said that I did not kill anyone. But the
calls became more heated, immense hatred was directed towards me. It left
me with a hard feeling that has not subsided. I am not sorry that I went to
the Cinematheque that evening. I am certain that in any case there were
people who heard my doubts, and that this changed a small amount of their
feelings towards the "facts" they saw. I am sure there were other people
who were shocked at the intolerance demonstrated by the audience, but even
so, it is hard for me [to accept] that they were the silent minority.
Allow me to say what I was unable to say to those people that evening. I am
proud that I was part of this excellent and ethical force that operated in
Jenin, regular army soldiers and reservists with motivation and a fighting
spirit, who went to destroy the terrorist infrastructure in its capital.
Many suicide-bombers came from Jenin, and were responsible for the murder of
the elderly, women and children on our streets. I am proud that we were
there, that we fought, and I also am proud of the morality of the battle.
The camp was not bombed from the air in order to prevent innocent civilian
casualties, and artillery was not used even though we knew about specific
areas in the [refugee] camp where terrorists were holing up. IDF soldiers
fought against terrorists, and terrorists only. Before destroying a
building where terrorist fire against our soldiers had originated from, as
many warnings as could be allowed, were given, so that the people could
leave without injury. The medical team administered medical aid to all
casualties, even if they had Hamas tattoos on their hands. At no point was
any person refused medical treatment.
This battle, heroic on one hand and ethical on the other, took a heavy toll
from the best of our fighters! We who had to be there - the soldiers that
fell there, their families and the IDF - do not deserve that Muhammad Bakri
should incite the world to murder and hatred at our expense.
(Commentary by Dr. David Sangan, Ma'ariv, 8.11.2002, Weekend Supplement)
Rating: Summary: Fabrication and Lies Review: Jenin was a terrorist base used to launch suicide attacks against Israel that killed Jews, Christians and Israeli Arabs. Every piece of supportable evidence debunks any massacre claim. Even the UN, which is openly politically biased against Israel, stated that there was no massacre and also stated that Jenin was a terrorist base camp. The Arab world has many legitimate issues with the west. But continuing to propogate total falsehoods will not solve any of the problems and will not help the Palestinian civilians who are caught in the middle. Israel will make peace with a real partner as they did with Egypt and Jordan. No peace can be made with terrorism and terrorists.
Rating: Summary: What's the truth? Review: Jenin was a war crime. This film is a powerful look at the results of that crime. Images speak louder than words. The evidence is overwhelming in this case. Look deeper before you buy what the critics have said here. http://www.jenin.info/
In response to the reviewer who says "Every international organization that investigated the matter concur that there were 52 Palestinian dead in Jenin". We will never know the true number of deaths because human rights organizations like Amnesty International were not allowed in. The IDF tightly controlled access to Jenin afterwards. Why? Also, 22 of the 52 admitted dead were civilians. The "battle" also left over 4,000 people homeless. All terrorists I'm sure. Shame on Israel and anyone who is "proud" of this.
Rating: Summary: Worthless propaganda Review: Jenin, Jenin, like its sister movie Gaza Strip is an emotional film, but it is worthless propaganda. Just as the people of Gaza were whiners, so too are the people of Jenin.
The people of Jenin blame everyone; from the great Satan, to Israel, to the heretics of the US. But they NEVER take responsibility for themselves.
Once the people of Jenin stop whining and take responsibility and accountability for themselves, they will get out of their rut. Until then, the endless cycle they weep about is of their own doing.
People of Jenin, stop whining and grow up.
Rating: Summary: Jenin Jenin Review: Moving and compelling without showing violance. It tells its story and achieves its objectives through everyday life of real people.
Rating: Summary: Honest, Powerful, Historic Review: One day the truth will be known to all about the horrific conditions the Palestinians are forced to live with while under the control of the Israeli government. I witnessed much of this horror first hand and this excellent film is accurate. Jenin Jenin is honest. If I was an Israeli citizen, I would hang my head in shame.This movie should be seen by all. When the truth is known, the world will not be able to casually sit by and pretend the propaganda that is pushed down our throats about Palestine and the brutalized Palestinians. Buy this film. Watch it. Show it to your children so they can grow up and be more compassionate than we adults are currently doing.
Rating: Summary: A modern blood libel Review: Should an army intentionally incur more casualties in order to minimize civilian deaths in an enemy city? It's not always an easy decision. Still, in Jenin, the doves in Israel won out, and the battle was handled in a truly heroic and humane fashion. That made no difference to many antizionists, who automatically told the usual lies, such as the ones on this DVD. But it made a big difference to the Israelis, the vast majority of whom are very proud of Israeli behavior in Jenin and see the lies about Jenin as far worse than those about many other battles.
The battle for Jenin was a test for antizionists. And many of them flunked it. This movie is a good example of that. But it is not the only example. British newspapers such as the Guardian, the Evening Standard, the Independent, and the Times also flunked. And the usually very varied Israeli press was close to unanimous in condemning the lies in these newspapers.
According to Dr. David Zangen, who was actually in Jenin during the fighting (Bakri, who made the film, was not there until two weeks later), there are several major lies in this movie. Here are three examples of them:
1) The film says that a wing of the Jenin hospital was destroyed and that the Israeli Defence Forces purposely disrupted the supply of water and electricity to the hospital. In fact, the IDF troops were careful not to enter the hospital, even though they were aware that it was being used to shelter wanted people. The IDF maintained the supply of water, electricity and oxygen to the hospital throughout the fighting. And no part of the hospital was shelled or bombed.
2) There was a very strange claim about a fatally wounded baby who died after soldiers prevented his evacuation to a hospital. But no body of a baby was found, nor was the name of this baby ever revealed. The person making this claim also told of tanks crushing people alive: this simply did not happen.
3) Bakri's film mentions mass graves in which the Israeli soldiers put dead Arabs. However, there is agreement that only 52 Arabs died in the battle.
This DVD is indeed anti-Israeli. But it is not really pro-anything. It is propaganda that simply serves to make the world more violent, hate-filled, and murderous.
Rating: Summary: THIS FILM IS TRASH! It's Just another lie in a long line Review: The great Israeli army went into Jenin in the hunt for terrorists who murder Jewish & Christian people and anyone else they don't like. Instead of using F-16s and Helicopter gunships, the Israeli Defense Forces entered a remote part of the town (camp where terrorists holed up) with infantry to minimize civilian casualties to the Palestinians. They ended up losing 21 soldiers in their hunt for nearly 50 armed terrorists. In the aftermath the Palestinian lie machine took hold of the story and began spreading a rumor that a massacre happened. They were NOT able to produce any evidence of the mass deaths or destruction, but the world's media ran with the story as they do so often in this conflict they know so little about. How many times can a group cry wolf? This "documentary" (it is mostly fabrication) was directed by an Arab-Israeli actor/director who gives his own account of what happened when the IDF moved into a terrorist camp. 56 Palestinians were killed, almost all of them armed terrorists, who booby trapped homes and even killed other Palestinians in the camp. The main problem with the film is the deceptive filming that suggests things that their propaganda machine spews throughout the world. Palestinians lied by saying 500 people were dead in the camp, a number even rejected by the Arab/Muslim controlled U.N. Another blunder in the film was testimony from hospital manager Dr. Mustafa Abu Gali. He claims that Israeli tanks fired 11 missiles at the hospital, "The whole of the west wing was destroyed," he testifies. "Fighter planes launched their missiles every three minutes,". However there is no damage shown in the film, except for a broken window!! This one lie in the film sums up the entire Palestinian attack against Israel. It is based on accusations that just can't stand up to the truth. In a more objective film, "Road to Jenin" by Pierre Rehov, the same hospital building is shown completely intact on the last day of the fighting, with only a tiny hole or scratch on the outside. Many other lies are told in "Jenin, Jenin", and it is pathetic that people have to go to these extremes to hurt an entire race and nation of peace loving Israelis. In short buying this film will simply fund more trash and Nazi propaganda, don't buy it if you are a moral person
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