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Nine Inch Nails Live - And All That Could Have Been (DTS)

Nine Inch Nails Live - And All That Could Have Been (DTS)

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Rating: 4 stars
Summary: NIN In All Digital Format
Review: This is an excellent DVD. It's amazing that this was shot entirely on miniDV, edited on Final Cut Pro, sound mixed with Pro Tools, and DVD created on DVD Studio Pro. Trent Reznor has been using Apple Mac Computers for a long time, and produced this DVD entirely on his Mac. Excellent video quality and the Dolby Digital 5.1 is simply amazing. The only other way to improve the sound is owning the DTS version.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: um, wow
Review: i bought this for about a dollar more than that at FYE, and I thought id buy it to put my extremely NIN deprived mind at ease, it kind of woke me up. the assortment of songs is top-notch and you really feel like you're there. wow. probably the best live vid. i have ever seen. well this and pantera.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Far better than expected!
Review: I must say, when I heard this was all filmed with handheld cameras, and edited on home computers, I started to wonder about it. They purchased video cameras and filmed almost the entire Fragility 2.0 tour. Then they did all the editing by themselves using Apple's Final Cut Pro. The result: Outstanding! There were a few very small parts where the DIY (do it yourself) showed, but it was well done. The camera is right up there in Trent's face, and then it switches to a view of the energetic crowd. There is a special documentary about the video screens that appear in the back of 3 of the songs, as the concerts energy level goes from through the roof back down to nearly nothing, and builds up again. If you've never seen a NIN show, get this, and this is about what it's like being there. If you have, this is a great memory of what it's like, and how they keep improving. Hats off to a job well done.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: please don't listen to that other review...
Review: [...]. In my opinion this is the BEST music concert dvd I have ever seen, made all the more so because of the shaky camerawork - giving it a raw, immediate feel that is not present on most of the concert performances i have seen on the format. The inclusion of only 3 songs with multiple angles (on a dvd where the camera angles change countless times) is due to the fact that those particular songs are performed in front of enormous LCD screens displaying video footage, and the impact is increased only if you can see all of the screens during the performance. i'm not actually sure WHICH other angles the reviewer would like to see..

[....] Trent Reznor spent the last 2 years working on the arrangement of the songs, cutting footage from over 20 full concerts, and editing it together to create the DVD. For me, the fact that the DVD was edited by Trent himself (with others) ensures that it is the best approximation of what he was trying to get across in the concert experience, and that itself makes this release all the more important for fans of the band.

As for the difference in the number of tracks between the CD and DVD, Trent himself has commented that certain *extra* tracks were included on the DVD for their visual nature, rather than being REMOVED to fit onto the CD.

Anyway, the lighting is fantastic on this show, with 3 enormous LCD screens suspended above the stage (used to sometimes creepy effect : the scanning blue light during 'the wretched'; the yellow-strobe pulsing during the instrumental of 'closer') and the sound quality is phenomenal.

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Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Nothing Fragile about this DVD
Review: The only things missing from this DVD are a concert t-shirt and the battle through traffic to get out of the parking lot. If you weren't fortunate to catch the tour, never fear. This DVD is the closest you can get to being there. Even though it is compiled from the best of all the shows of the tour, it is so flawlessly edited you quickly forget that fact. And the sound is so amazing you would swear you were there. Had I known this was going to be so good, I almost would have given up the chance to go and saved a few bucks...ALMOST.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Worst ever ? I don't think so.
Review: I have to say I must take issue with the recent review by "The Thorn". First of all I should say that I am not a rabid Nine Inch Nails fan. Although I feel that much of Reznor's work is amazing, almost as much is little more than pretentious sonic ramblings. In fact, it was my wife who bought the tickets for this tour putting us in the 1st row directly behind the baracaded mosh pit. I have seen hundred's of concerts beginning with the Steve Miller Band back in 1976, and this was hands down the most amazing concert performance I have ever seen.

I personally own 20 + musical performance DVD's ranging from singer song writers such as James Taylor to Classic Rock such as Cheap Trick's Silver, to electronic music like Underworld Live. This Nine Inch Nails DVD is quite possibly the best sounding concert DVD ever made! From a video perspective, it may not be as polished as some others I've seen but I think it very effectively recreates the concert experience.

Personally I was a little leary when I read the liner notes describing how the concert was shot by crew members using personal video recorders and edited on a personal computer. I've seen what can result from this approach. A perfect example is Pearl Jam's "Touring Band". The video quality is horribly grainy thoughout and the sound quality is both poor an inconsistent (partially the result of being recorded at so many different venues and partially due to a total disregard for improving sound quality in the mixing process).

The video quality is actually excellent on the NIN DVD considering the method of recording (not the least bit grainy), and the superb job of video editing has reproduced the frenetic energy of a NIN show in a way I didn't think possible. Reznor has over the years proven that he is a master when it comes to sound engineering, and he has taken it to a whole new level on this DVD. He has taken full advantage of 5.1 surround capability by truly utilizing each available channel for instruments, sound effects and more subtle ambient effects such as crowd noise. He also managed to exploit this technology to great effect without getting too gimicky.

I too was initially perplexed by the need for 2 DVD's for this concert. The extras certainly weren't enough to explain it? But after watching and listening, I do have a theory. DVD's can be mastered at different bit rates, the higher the bit rate, the better the sound quality and correspondingly the more storage space used. I think it's quite possible that these DVD's were mastered at a significantly higher bit rate than is standard. This would also explain why the sound quality is so significantly better than any other concert DVD out there. Unfortunately there was no technical information in the packaging or in the credits to either confrimn or discount this theory.

I will agree that the two DVD's does hurt the flow of the concert somewhat. But if that's what it takes to achieve the superior sound of this set, then in my opinion it's completetely worth it. It's also less of an issue if you have a DVD changer as opposed to a single disk player.

My guess is that this particular reviewer does not have the quality of equipment required to get the full impact of this sets magnificent production. As far as the 80 minutes goes, sure I'd like to have more. But, in my opinion, I'll take quality over quantity any day. I can't tell you how many concert DVD's I have struggled with just to make it to the end. To me the fact the you're left wanting more just speaks to what an amazing concert experience it was! I felt the same way when I was at the actual show!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: He's outdone himself again. The best ever!
Review: I had no idea when I lovingly opened the package that I was going to hear the best live album ever. As I sat and listened in my surround sound set up in my living room I was dumbfounded. But I truly believe you could be sitting and listing to it on your computer and still be thrilled. Toss in the Easter eggs and the tons of still pictures of the band and you get a perfect DVD. You're crazy if you don't get this one! And trust me I don't use exclamation points easily.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: And All That Could Have Been...
Review: As I have mixed feelings about this DVD, I feel its title is ironically accurate. Trent certainly accomplished what he was trying to do: capture the feel of the live Nine Inch Nails show. It's extremely visceral, and gives you the feeling of being... well... right down in it. :P I wonder if it would have been better as a typical live recording, with hired cameramen providing those dramatic angles and camera movements we're used to seeing in this sort of release. Maybe I'm just spoiled by all the glitz and emotional impact of the X Japan DVD I've recently seen. This is quite a contrast; raw, intense, and ugly. Not to say it's bad at all. There are a few moments here that blow my mind. The trilogy of La Mer, The Great Below, and The Mark Has Been Made in particular send shivers of energy through my skin. The awesome visuals on the screens behind the stage heighten the effect greatly. Other than that, the secret features (which I cheated to see :d) are quite possibly the coolest thing here. A few of them are simple novelties, but cool to see nonetheless. I won't elaborate too much, but one guest appearance really kicked butt...

Overall, this is a nice DVD, but it feels incomplete, somehow. Closure was a much more satisfying package as a visual release (which I'd like to see on DVD; bah to VHS), but what we have here is a very raw, visceral presentation of the live NIN experience. Again, bearing the DVD's title in mind, maybe that was Trent's idea all along...

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Worst DVD scam in the history fo the format!!!
Review: I feel the need to complain about Nine Inch Nail's DVD release and companion CD to the live compilation 'And All That Could Have Been'.
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First off, let me explain that I'm not a casual NIN listener or DVD buyer. I've been buying all the NIN releases (albums, singles, compilations, ...etc) from 'Pretty Hate Machine' on. As for DVD, I've been into the format for 4 years now and have viewed, purchased, and/or compared countless titles.
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Let's start with the length of the show. It is 80 mins in length (plus the credits). 80 mins?!!! From a whole tour's worth of footage?!!! Hmmm...
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Two-disc set(?): Considering the length, one has to wonder the need for a two disc set. After all, 4-hour movies can easily be shoved onto 1 disc; so why would an 80 mins show be cut in two parts? There is NO reason for it. Period.
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Two formats: You can buy either, the 5.1 Dolby Digital, or the 5.1 DTS Digital version. They are not included on the same disc. Which, frankly, if it can be done with 3-hour movies, can certainly be done for an 80 mins concert.
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Editing: If you MUST cut the show in two (and remember there is no need for it!), why cut when a song is starting? Versus when the previous one is ending, I mean. Yes, the next song, is starting when the disc ends! That is plain stupid. Furthermore, why not end the first disc after 'Wish', which ends abruptly and would make you want to rush for the next disc? Instead, the show continues for 'Complicaton', which would have served best as an intro to the 2nd disc. Let's remember two discs were not necessary in the first place. Double-idiocy!
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Audio commentary: Why not just run the audio commentary with the show? It would take less space, as an audio track means nothing in DVD terms. Instead, it's a separate 15mins concert snippet with someone talking over it. Joy!
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Multiple angles: If you're going to add multiple angles, at least put more than one! What is the point of watching a show from 2 angles? And on only 3 tracks out of 18 no less?
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Still pictures: Great fun. There is a good amount of them. But you cannot navigate back and forth through them. You can only go forward, or start over. Pathetic. What if you want to compare or go back to that 'cool' one from earlier. Yeah right! Good luck!
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Subtitles: Optional subtitles are available for the newcomers who can't recognise the songs being performed. This will give you the title of the song as it begins. Interesting. However, there's a bug in them that make some of them pop up even when turned off, and frankly, what could be more distracting than having amateurish song titles pop up during a concert? This helps to take you out of the experience, reminding you are at home watching a video...
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Price: This DVD is from 75 to 100% more expensive than other music DVDs. Do I think it's worth it? Certainly not. I wouldn't even pay the normal price of a music DVD simply because of the aggravation of having my show segmented in two parts instead of one. What about you?
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Companion music CD: The tracks seem the same (although I can't confirm that since I have yet to compare them). Why would a 79mins and 40secs show be edited down on CD? Three tracks aren't featured on the CD which are on the DVD. Yet we all know up to 80mins of audio can fit on CD. Sounds like a scam to get fans to buy the DVD or video AS WELL as the CD for the extra tracks. Worked with me... this time!!!
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'Still': On the flip side, if you can get your hands on the limited edition of the CD, the second disc offers a really good mix of 'stripped down' studio recordings, including 5 new songs. THIS is worth the purchase. The title track 'And All That Could Have Been' is simply fantastic!!!
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Conclusion: This title is the worst DVD I have purchased, viewed or encountered EVER!!! It is a total scam to get into the fans' wallets as 'Deep' as NIN can. I advise everyone to steer clear of it as though it were the black plague. This a total money-making scam. I always thought the fans mattered, but guess again - in the end, it's all about profit-margins.
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'And all that could have been', indeed!

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Packaging is the only cool thing...
Review: Disregard what everyone else is saying....this DVD . . .! I thought it would be professionally shot, but it wasn't. It was similiar to watching a BOOTLEG video tape (with multi-angles). Seriously, the picture is almost as shakey as "The Blair Witch" movie.

The "Extras" aren't even that cool. I was totally bummed (even more for the money I shelled out).

If you are a huge, huge fan of NIN - I would buy this, BUT ONLY USED!

The only redeeming thing about the DVD is the awesome packaging by David Carson.


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